1. You're weak by not taking it up with the bishop and laying down the law as you see it as father and husband. Are you a passive person?
2. You're weak by soliciting advice on an internet board, and anonymously so.
3. You're weak by straddling both worlds, by seeking solace on this board, and by spending so much time on this board for solace. I take it that exercise, reading and travel are not on your agenda.
4. You're weak by posting evil things about your bishop anonymously yet saying nothing in person. Take a stand, even it is an evil one in abandoning the Church of your ancestry and the faith of your fathers. Be a man, not the knee-knocking weakling you are on this board. Move into my ward and I'll treat you like a man and respect you for your decisions, and enforce them once they are made known to me.
Paging Wade! We need conflict resolution on aisle 3 please!
Schmo, you see it doesn't even have anything to do with me and it bothers me! I need to get my empathy meter checked. ;P
If I recall correctly, brother Crocket has previously expressed his disdain for my so-called "psycho-babble", and so I doubt that I would be any more successful in pursuading him to move to higher ground and civility as I have been with Schmo.
At the risk of making both their blood curdle (as well as Xi's), may I just say that I feel your pain. ;-)
WHo knows, my parents joined the church when I was a young'un (about 9).
My mother, whose mother had just died, grabbed the church for a variety of reasons, with both hands, heart, and almost all her body and mind.
She was a gonna.
Dad, on the other hand, clever, but wise, held back, but ended up being baptised with me and mum at 11.00pm at night or after, after much cajoling and persuasion from the missionaries. (who were actually really nice people).
6 months of dubious activity ensued, in which my mum started to put walls up against my father, who was no longer good enough as a man who maybe once a week attended the local pub with some relatives. (not that he was ever a heavy drinker..grief..much too sensible)
My mother started to cool off towards my dad, and many, many, many arguments ensued. My brother and I, joined our dad in wondering what good the church was doing. (Brother never got baptised,...big mistake in fracturing the family...number one....really...BIG mistake)
Anyway, to cut a rather long story short, some extremely wise home teachers came round and told mum that she should be putting her family first and if it came to a choice between her family and the church, she should choose her family.
What wise words, coming at a time when divorce was on the cards.
Thankyou Brother Silcott. You were a wise man, and you kept our family together.
Family Trump's church in my opinion, and anyone piddling on the sacred bonds of marriage, temple or not, is piddling on God, and that's to you Gazelam et al.
Oh, don't worry. It didn't bother me in the least. I think it says more about him, than it does about me.
You know, like the guys who get the big monster trucks - trying to compensate for their lack of something else...
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
You ask for advice on this board about how to deal with your bishop? Take a stand, man. What do you think PPorter, Vegas, Shades or Sajer would do in your position? Cry over their game controller? Come on!
KimberlyAnn wrote: I confessed to French kissing, which was told to me by my Bishop was "sex with the mouth". In the interview, I was asked if the young man whom I kissed touched my breasts, removed any of my clothing or otherwise touched my body. The Bishop wanted DETAILS, so he could appropriately punish me. I was asked if I was wearing a slip while kissing! Looking back now, I cannot believe I was alone as a teenage girl with a forty year old man who was asking me such questions! It's entirely inappropriate... KA
Do any of the LDS posters here know if this is ever talked about in Church or if a forum for discussing such a subject exists. If so, it would take a brave soul (preferably a woman) to mention the inappropriateness of this line of questioning and ask what safequards exist within their own ward to see that is does not happen.
I remember we had a Standards Night when I was in Young Women that talked about "the second kind of a kiss", i.e. the French Kiss, and how that type of kiss should only be reserved for marriage.
Most of us kind of smirked and thought "yeah, right." LOL
I guess I'm just a heathen. I would have never "confessed" to French kissing because I honestly didn't think there was anything wrong with it, no matter what anyone in supposed "authority" said.
They seem to have given up on the Standards Nights. You don't hear about them in YW anymore. We used to have them about twice a year when I was growing up.
rcrocket wrote:Really now, you can't see the position you're in?
You ask for advice on this board about how to deal with your bishop? Take a stand, man. What do you think PPorter, Vegas, Shades or Sajer would do in your position? Cry over their game controller? Come on!
rcrocket
You know what, Bob?
I actually agree with you about WK taking a stand with his bishop and telling him where to get off. That's exactly what I would do if I found out a bishop was bad-mouthing me to my family.
It still puzzles me why you have to be so nasty, though.
What's wrong with WK asking the opinion of some of us who he considers to be his friends?
Yes, we post anonymously, but we're actually a rather social group. You should come into chat sometime. Maybe you wouldn't have the perception that we're all such monsters.
Why do you always have to be on such a high horse all the time? Does someone piss in your cornflakes every morning or what?
rcrocket wrote:Really now, you can't see the position you're in?
You ask for advice on this board about how to deal with your bishop? Take a stand, man. What do you think PPorter, Vegas, Shades or Sajer would do in your position? Cry over their game controller? Come on!
rcrocket
I believe in giving someone the benefit of the doubt, and second chances. Don't worry, if he does it again, I'll say something.
For now, the punishment wouldn't fit the crime.
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...