Gillebre wrote:You think you guys are "good" at dismantling stuff? Head over to Concerned Christians or LivePrayer.com, you guys are little league, compared to them. ;)
As opposed to belief here, I am feel more happy and certain of what the truth is than before, but that's just a personal note. :)
Let's see, arguing the truthiness of one's belief system, and the un-truthiness of someone else's belief system, by citing a work of fiction cobbled together by ignorant, superstitious, mysoginist, bronze age goat herders--yup, that's a winner all right.
Like most true believers, the Concerned Christians appear utterly incapable of turning their critical eye on their own beliefs.
By the way, viz your statement that we've already made up our minds, well, true and false.
False in that we've in fact CHANGED OUR MINDS, which is why many of us are here in the first place. We were open to new ideas, to criticism of our own beliefs, and in considering the possibility that we were wrong. We, unlike (probably) you and many other believers, did not arrive to where we are as an accidental artifact of our birth, but we reasoned our way to where we are, and many of us are open to reasoning our way to different conclusions.
True in that we've made up our mind that the Mormon Church is not what it claims to be. But again, this is based on evidence, not because this is what our mammy and pappy taught us.
As for the whole argument viz God, I'm open to considering the evidence, I've just never seen any that I consider anything but a non-starter. I don't find subjective experiences of others to be good reason to change my own views, nor do I believe that my own subjective personal experiences carry any weight or authority for anyone else, nor that they answer questions on issues for which no actual evidence exists. Give me something objectively verifiable, and I'm happy to consider it.
God . . . "who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, . . . and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him ..."