Should the Dehlin/Rosebud drama be deleted?

[Rosebud]

It will be sad if John’s legal aggressions do scare this board into ending the one safe place for criticizing him. That will speak volumes, won’t it.

He is aggressive because it works.

[Rosebud]

I have another question, about crime:

If we have a public figure who is continually publicly accusing church leaders of being involved in criminal coverup (for example, by doing things like outing Jenn Kamp as a victim of child sexual abuse live on the air, etc.), does it make sense to not allow any discussion about one of the topics the public figure himself publicly discusses on a message board?

Just asking for a friend ….

[Rosebud]

Right now what’s coming to mind is when y’all were following him around as he helped parade McKenna Denson through the media, ultimately exploiting a woman who was likely not telling the full truth but was vulnerable and in need of attention. He had media following that story about crime for a long time, until it turned out to be yet another red herring.

You lambasted me for calling it first, here on Mormon Discussions. It took months for New Name Noah to catch up and for the whole thing to fall apart.

Double standard. Again.

[drumdude]

It will be sad if John’s legal aggressions do scare this board into ending the one safe place for criticizing him. That will speak volumes, won’t it.

He is aggressive because it works.

He has been remarkably restrained in the face of your completely unsupported allegations.

You and Kamp have been incredibly aggressive in your attacks on him. And when the rubber hit the road in the legal system, Kamp lost on every point.

[Marcus]

...I get that you, Marcus (whom I ought to be ignoring), don’t have as full a grasp of language use as some of the PhDs around here....

The students in my graduate classes will find this humorous.

[Moksha]

Is the problem that my own name was brought up in a court of law so therefore I shouldn’t talk about it? (Some people make really dumb arguments.)

The reason is the constant defamation of John Dehlin because he chose to stay with his wife. It was simply a water cooler romance decades ago and you have been aggrandizing it ever since then.

by the way, Rosebud, you could appeal to the people of FAIR, Interpreter, and Mormon Scriptures Central to come here and vote NO so John Dehlin could continue to be defamed.

[Marcus]

I have another question, about crime:

If we have a public figure who is continually publicly accusing church leaders of being involved in criminal coverup (for example, by doing things like outing Jenn Kamp as a victim of child sexual abuse live on the air, etc.)...

You have been making this false claim repeatedly, and every time you do it has been debunked. Here's a very clear debunking from last July:

Only one of us, me or John, is telling the truth…. this isn’t a “somewhere in the middle” case. One person is perjuring himself under oath and using donor money to sue a former employee he outed live on the air as a victim of child sexual abuse without her consent. These are not the actions of a good person who is somewhat misguided in the present. They are the actions of an offender who is covering up his offenses.

Rosebud, did you get the memo? Jenn Kamp was found to have committed defamation as a matter of law, including her false claim that Dehlin outed her on a live podcast. Why do you continue to advance a defamatory statement?

...The idea that you and Jenn keep promoting—that he outed her—is completely fabricated. I must remind you, once again, it has been found to be defamatory.

Rosebud has made this baseless and defamatory claim repeatedly. She has never addressed any of the posts explaining why her statement is untrue, she has simply repeated the false statement that the judge in Kamp's case specifically declared to be defamation, over and over and over. The post above is truncated for clarity, but if anyone would like to read the full analysis, just click the arrow.

Defaming a board member by repeatedly posting untrue versions of in real life events in my opinion violates our universal rule 4.

[Jersey Girl]

Does anyone know or have data on when she started posting about the JD topic on this board? I think I know but I could be mistaken and don't want to assume.

[drumdude]

This is one of the first:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=135492&start=370

[Jersey Girl]

This is one of the first:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=135492&start=370

I don't see her on that thread.