BKP's latest rant: Evils of TV and Teased Hair ....

[_OUT OF MY MISERY]

I would honestly chose the chick with the tats. I know that she is open and honest enough to get a permanent icon of what she supports and believes. The more conservative the dress, the more repressed I've known people to be. And generaly have alot to hide. I speak this from experience. I have in my family and aquantenances of my family, registered sex offenders. and they have ALWAYS been the "clean cut" "consertavively dressed" people. The most honest people I've ever known in my life are those that are happy to express themselves as they feel they should. they don't hold back. And as such, they generaly have much less baggage as a person.

I myself am getting a tattoo. The triplehorn avatar i have specificaly. right lower arm/shoulder.

As kind of a funny side story, when i went into the shop where im planning on getting my tat. The tattoist is a guy with facial tattoos, large gauged ears, silicone horn implants, and visible shoulder tats. Honestly, the very first thing that i thought when i went in there was, "oh, cool, he is normal". Cool guy too, awesome artist. I need to see if i can find a pic of this one he did of Hugnin and Munin (Odins ravens) as half arm sleeves. He had them in his portfolio, and they ruled.

Sono
Before you get a tattoo...check out the requirements that the state has..every state is different...I am not sure about Utah and the requirements that the tattoo places must follow....

Make sure you get clean needles and make sure they show you they are using clean needles...Enjoy your tattoo...
Make sure you put it some place you cover it up it when you need to...and show it off when you want to as well....unless you know for sure what you will be doing with rest of your life....Tattoos carry such a stigma with them.... it is going to take many many years before that stigma fades....especially in Utah

[_Mephitus]

Before you get a tattoo...check out the requirements that the state has..every state is different...I am not sure about Utah and the requirements that the tattoo places must follow....

Make sure you get clean needles and make sure they show you they are using clean needles...Enjoy your tattoo...
Make sure you put it some place you cover it up it when you need to...and show it off when you want to as well....unless you know for sure what you will be doing with rest of your life....Tattoos carry such a stigma with them.... it is going to take many many years before that stigma fades....especially in Utah

Oh, I've already researched the shop im going to. They have a good standing and do very good work. Several other tattoo parlors have recomended them also. Surprisingly, the laws on tattos arent very strong here. Like most places, extreme body modification is a very gray area, but otherwise its clear. im getting it on a non-visible location. I generally wear long sleeves, and am getting it far enough up my arm that it wouldn't be readily visible even if i wore short. Besides, im trying to move out of utah ASAP. im going nuts here. Would love to move back to my birth state of washington.

[_Runtu]

I was just thinking that on the surface, I look just like President Packer wants me to look: clean-cut, no beard, nicely dressed most of the time. No tattoos or piercings, no teased hair (mine is probably too short for that anyway). I look like a Mormon except for the garments.

So, a question for those who judge a book by its cover: would you want me talking to new investigators in the church? Would you want me teaching Gospel Doctrine? I would think not.

But at least I look the part.

[_harmony]

I was just thinking that on the surface, I look just like President Packer wants me to look: clean-cut, no beard, nicely dressed most of the time. No tattoos or piercings, no teased hair (mine is probably too short for that anyway). I look like a Mormon except for the garments.

So, a question for those who judge a book by its cover: would you want me talking to new investigators in the church? Would you want me teaching Gospel Doctrine? I would think not.

But at least I look the part.

Maybe Packer is assuming that anyone who looks the part is already more than halfway there. Actually, most men I know "look" the part, even my gay office manager. Very clean cut guy, short styled hair (he was once a hairdresser... boy, he has some good stories about that!), clean shaven, nice dresser (he was complaining at lunch the other day that it's so hard to tell the gay men anymore because more straight guys are dressing well nowadays), etc. Maybe he could be Packer's poster boy?

[_Yoda]

I was just thinking that on the surface, I look just like President Packer wants me to look: clean-cut, no beard, nicely dressed most of the time. No tattoos or piercings, no teased hair (mine is probably too short for that anyway). I look like a Mormon except for the garments.

So, a question for those who judge a book by its cover: would you want me talking to new investigators in the church? Would you want me teaching Gospel Doctrine? I would think not.

But at least I look the part.

Maybe Packer is assuming that anyone who looks the part is already more than halfway there. Actually, most men I know "look" the part, even my gay office manager. Very clean cut guy, short styled hair (he was once a hairdresser... boy, he has some good stories about that!), clean shaven, nice dresser (he was complaining at lunch the other day that it's so hard to tell the gay men anymore because more straight guys are dressing well nowadays), etc. Maybe he could be Packer's poster boy?

ROTLMAO! Wouldn't that be a hoot?!

[_moksha]

Here are two Aryan specimens for possible poster boy
consideration. Unfortunately, they could not be viewed at
Brigham Young University due to their not being clothed in
proper garments.

[_Mephitus]

that and they are holding hands. Which might be considered "questionable behavior". rofl

don't forget the lost 13th commandment, "Thou shalt be ashamed of thine own anatomy" - Moral Orel - Adult Swim

[_Mephitus]

Oh, i found the website for the tattoo parlor im getting my work done at.

Http://www.paintedtemple.com

Check out the gallery, cool stuff.

[_Coggins7]

bcspace wrote:

Quote:
"You will be safe if you look like, act like and groom like a Latter-day Saint," Packer said.



By and large, he's correct. There is not even a smidgen of control either, that much is obvious. No one is being tied down and forced to dress or act a certain way.



By and large, you're incorrect. You don't have to tie someone down and force them to do certain things to have 'control' over them.

This is a very good example of pure, unexpurgated, unambiguous intellectual vacuity. A better textbook example could verily not be found.

Everyone in the church is as free as a bird to do whatever they like. What I suspect here is that what you really object to is any form of pressure or influence, within LDS culture and within LDS families to resist the call of the "if it feels good, do it" philosophy to which you very likeyly subscribe. Value realtivism is a harsh taskmaster, as its cannibalizes not only its own children but its own logical structure. Its like all the liberals who are positively terrified of home schooling...all those people teaching their kids dangerous ideas like premarital chastity, to avoid things like pornography and the vile messages that permieate much of the youth culture and its music; to avoid defacing the body with tattoes and body piercings (I like to call this "autovandalism), to wear clothes and have haiestyles that make one appear to be civilized, educated, and well mannerd, as opposed to having spent time in a maximum security prison etc

I frankly see nothing, nothing whatever, wrong with the church's standareds as expressed by Packer. I know it utterly enrages some people that their is actually a dissenting view out there that sees MTV, the Hip Hop culture, and the endless American glorification of excess, fetishistic extremeism in dress, speech, and behavior, extreme, inconoclasitc individualism for its own sake (and to assuage the gaping holes of meaning in so many modern personal lives) and eroticism, but the view is there and its not tiny.

Get over it.

Loran

[_Who Knows]

bcspace wrote:

Quote:
"You will be safe if you look like, act like and groom like a Latter-day Saint," Packer said.



By and large, he's correct. There is not even a smidgen of control either, that much is obvious. No one is being tied down and forced to dress or act a certain way.



By and large, you're incorrect. You don't have to tie someone down and force them to do certain things to have 'control' over them.

This is a very good example of pure, unexpurgated, unambiguous intellectual vacuity. A better textbook example could verily not be found.

Everyone in the church is as free as a bird to do whatever they like...

Of course people are free to make their own choices. But old men determining the consequences for those choices is what I consider control: You're free to tease your hair, but if you do, you're considered as being in the 'great and spacious building'. Only Satan's minions reside in the great and spacious building. You're not one of satan's minions are you?

Tease hair - or go to hell. Hmm, great choice.

How about this as a hypothetical example: I'm going to punch you. You're free to choose whether I punch you in the face or in the stomach.

Great options eh? But hey, you're free as a bird to choose. So which is it?