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_why me
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Some Schmo wrote:
why me wrote: Evidence would be in Lucifer's plan.


Oh yes. Evidence is soooo evil.

why me wrote: What is reality? Is your reality as a postmo better than a Mormon reality. I doubt it.


The fact that you doubt it makes me pity you (well, a little). Reality is simply perception. No more, no less. And my perception as a non-mormon is infinitely better than it was as a Mormon. There's no comparison, really.

why me wrote: Mormons can be great thinkers. Mormons are also highly educated people, in general. A person cannot claim with a straight face that LDS people do not think.


I can certainly claim with a straight face that their thinking is highly flawed. Education means nothing if it fails to lead you out of the nonsense of religion and thinking there's value in faith.

why me wrote: You need to have a reality check and begin to understand what exactly is a person of faith.


We all know what a person of faith is, and it has little to do with reality. Pretty funny you'd even dare to mention reality.

Evidence that there is a god is centered in the experiences within people. For example: the catholics claim that the virgin Mary has made visitations to select individuals. These individuals seem to be on the up and up. For the LDS, it is centered in the Book of Mormon and within the experiences of feeling the holy ghost. Also select LDS members have also received visitations from heavenly beings. Is that evidence for you? perhaps not. What evidence would you need to convince you that there is a god or that the Book of Mormon is what it claims itself to be? Most likely, your answer would be centered in absolute knowledge which would be of satan since in his plan all would return to the father and the glory would be his. WIth absolute proof or evidence, faith would not be needed.

Your post reeks of elitism something that exmos and postmos seem to be drowning in.
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Post by _Polygamy Porter »

poor picked on why me wrote:Your post reeks of elitism something that exmos and postmos seem to be drowning in.
At least they are not hypocrites.
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why me wrote: Evidence that there is a god is centered in the experiences within people.


Experiences within people are not evidence of god. They're evidence that people have experiences, and will attribute all manner of cause for them. It has nothing to do with some imagined diety.

why me wrote: For example: the catholics claim that the virgin Mary has made visitations to select individuals. These individuals seem to be on the up and up.


LOL... You think so, do ya? OK.

why me wrote: For the LDS, it is centered in the Book of Mormon and within the experiences of feeling the holy ghost. Also select LDS members have also received visitations from heavenly beings. Is that evidence for you? perhaps not.


It wouldn't be evidence for any rational person who knows the true definition of the word "evidence."

why me wrote: What evidence would you need to convince you that there is a god or that the Book of Mormon is what it claims itself to be?


He would have to regularly communicate with people, and any person anywhere would be able to witness that communication with any other person, and similarly describe it to the point where it left no doubt people were all experiencing the same thing.

why me wrote: Most likely, your answer would be centered in absolute knowledge...


Well, as absolute as knowledge gets, yeah.

why me wrote: ...which would be of satan since in his plan all would return to the father and the glory would be his.


Oh really? Satan mentioned this to you, did he? I wasn't aware the two of you were speaking. First name basis?

why me wrote: WIth absolute proof or evidence, faith would not be needed.


That's the wonderful thing about proof. Faith certainly is NOT needed... not by a truly mature and responsible individual, anyway.

why me wrote: Your post reeks of elitism something that exmos and postmos seem to be drowning in.


Well, you know, when you feel good that you only make claims based on concrete evidence, maybe it's hard not to be a bit smug. It's better than being smug because you think you know something to be real when it was just a myth of someone else's. I'd rather be rational and smug than irrational and smug any day.
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Why me wrote:

There is no evidence that Jesus was the Christ either
.

---You don't say...

Religious belief is built on faith and not evidence. Evidence would be in Lucifer's plan.


So let's see - if there ISN'T any evidence for a proposition, then we ought to believe that proposition; and if there IS evidence for a proposition, we ought to disregard it, since, according to you, "Lucifer's plan" has evidence supporting it, so "how great really is 'evidence'?". Nice.

Have you inquired about freelancing for The Journal of Book of Mormon Studies?
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Post by _Polygamy Porter »

Tal Bachman wrote:Why me wrote:

There is no evidence that Jesus was the Christ either
.

---You don't say...

Religious belief is built on faith and not evidence. Evidence would be in Lucifer's plan.


So let's see - if there ISN'T any evidence for a proposition, then we ought to believe that proposition; and if there IS evidence for a proposition, we ought to disregard it, since, according to you, "Lucifer's plan" has evidence supporting it, so "how great really is 'evidence'?". Nice.

Have you inquired about freelancing for The Journal of Book of Mormon Studies?
Pay no attention to the hypocrite who has been inactive for 30+ years.
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