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The Mike Quinn/gossip fiasco: What was DCP guilty of?

 
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_Daniel Peterson
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Post by _Daniel Peterson »

barrelomonkeys wrote:It's all about you, you, you!

Well, as a matter of fact, with at least a couple of the posters here, it seems to be.

Pretty weird. I'll grant you that.
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Post by _Jersey Girl »

Daniel Peterson wrote:
barrelomonkeys wrote:It's all about you, you, you!

Well, as a matter of fact, with at least a couple of the posters here, it seems to be.

Pretty weird. I'll grant you that.


Yeah. We finally have quorum in the chat room. We'll render a decision on your guilt/innocence in just a few minutes, Daniel. Please stand by for further updates.

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Post by _Daniel Peterson »

I gotta know. The uncertainty is just killing me.

Did I viciously and unethically gossip, or didn't I? What did I really do?

I came here because I knew that it was only from a poll of the people on this board that I could possibly learn the facts about my past.

Help me!

Next up: Was I born in California, or in Mississippi? Your votes will determine the truth.
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Post by _Polygamy Porter »

Daniel Peterson wrote:I gotta know. The uncertainty is just killing me.

Did I viciously and unethically gossip, or didn't I? What did I really do?

I came here because I knew that it was only from a poll of the people on this board that I could possibly learn the facts about my past.

Help me!

Next up: Was I born in California, or in Mississippi? Your votes will determine the truth.
Cali.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:I gotta know. The uncertainty is just killing me.

Did I viciously and unethically gossip, or didn't I? What did I really do?

I came here because I knew that it was only from a poll of the people on this board that I could possibly learn the facts about my past.

Help me!

Next up: Was I born in California, or in Mississippi? Your votes will determine the truth.


It's bad news, Daniel. But I'll have to start a new thread so we can run it into the ground and up a flag pole, okay?

And Daniel, before we determine where you were born, we need to decide IF you were born. What kind of debater are you anyway?

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Post by _Daniel Peterson »

Jersey Girl wrote:It's bad news, Daniel. But I'll have to start a new thread so we can run it into the ground and up a flag pole, okay?

The more the merrier.

Jersey Girl wrote:And Daniel, before we determine where you were born, we need to decide IF you were born. What kind of debater are you anyway]

Good point. There need to be at least two threads devoted to the question, with several hundred fact-free posts each. And then it can be settled by a poll.
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Post by _Mister Scratch »

Daniel Peterson wrote:Your claim is that the article by James and Mitton is essentially an extended exercise in the logical fallacy of ad hominem irrelevancy.


No. My claim is that A) you have made a significant blunder by pigeonholing Quinn according to his sexual orientation, and B) as editor of FARMS Review, you signed off on this ridiculous, offensive, and ad hominem-laden piece of Mopologetic garbage. You really *are* effective at distorting things, aren't you? Oh, and trust me, 'cause I sure would know, wouldn't I?

What more decisive counterargument could possibly be put on offer than the entire article, which is manifestly not an extended exercise in the logical fallacy of ad hominem irrelevancy? It is available, along with the Klaus Hansen article, here:

http://farms.BYU.edu/publications/revie ... 0&number=1


This is really a very, very dumb argument, Prof. P. This would be like me saying, "The Mopologists totally invented evidence!!!," and then, when asked to provide evidence, do little more than supply a link to the ZLMB thread. What is this, my dear friend, like the fifty seventh time I have kicked your butt? Sure, the interracial marriage thread on FAIR was great fun (especially for you no doubt, since you crony Dadof7 put me on the queue for it), and so was our little chat on men permitting women into heaven. (You used the logical fallacy of argumentum ad populorum both times! Remember that? Such fond memories!)

Now, of course, I can't guarantee that some, many, or most of your cohorts here won't fall into lockstep behind your claim.


Why in the hell would *anyone* do that? People here are actually allowed to write what they think! This isn't FAIR or MAD, or, heaven forbid, FARMS Review, Prof. P. I don't have any moderators booting people out of here, unlike you. Who, I ask you, is the real coward?

But I'm quite confident that fair-minded people who understand the concept of the logical fallacy of ad hominem irrelevancy, even if they do not find James and Mitton persuasive, will know how far to credit your accusation.


Sure. Especially since you are too much of a weenie to even post your commentary on the article.

And those people are, naturally, the only people whose judgment on this matter has any real significance. (And further, by the way, no, you can't change the definition of the ad hominem fallacy by simply polling a few people here on this board.)

As I've said already in this thread, a primary source, given in its entirety without spin or agenda-driven commentary, is the best kind of evidence.


Uh, it's not really the "best kind of evidence" if the source itself is riddled with "agenda-driven commentary"!

That you object to such evidence is anything but surprising.

Incidentally, you need to demand that I confess that I'm a vicious and unscrupulous gossip. You haven't done so for at least an hour.


Hey, as I've said, if you cop to it, I'll let it drop. I promise.
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Post by _Daniel Peterson »

I'm not going to "cop to it," so you can't let it drop.

Onwards and upwards! You've found your life's work.
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Post by _Jersey Girl »

Daniel,

You'll be happy to know that due to a recent meeting of the chat room participants last evening, a general consensus was reached which can best be expressed in formal terms as:

"We're sick of the Quinn thing!"

Having said that, we remain unsure as to whether or not you were born and will have to take that up at the next meeting. Please stand by for further compelling updates and keep your eye on the donut, buddy!

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Post by _Daniel Peterson »

Jersey Girl wrote:You'll be happy to know that due to a recent meeting of the chat room participants last evening, a general consensus was reached which can best be expressed in formal terms as:

"We're sick of the Quinn thing!"

I'd exclaim "Hallelujah!" except that I realize that, on this board, there is nothing whatsoever (pending the heat death of the universe) to prevent the Ancient Mariner and his faithful sidekick Batboy from continuing to pursue their absurd crusade forever and ever and ever and ever.

Jersey Girl wrote:Having said that, we remain unsure as to whether or not you were born and will have to take that up at the next meeting. Please stand by for further compelling updates and keep your eye on the donut, buddy!

I wait with eager anticipation.

And there are innumerable other issues in my past that will need to be resolved through polling the experts here. For example, did I actually travel to Hawaii when I was five, or is that merely a false memory? Did I climb the Pyramid of the Sun at Teotihuacán twice in the same morning? Did I really meet Karl Barth's nephew in Jerusalem once? Did I used to like Life cereal when I was a kid?
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