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Bill Hamblin "Outs" CKSalmon

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:54 pm
by _Mister Scratch
Those familiar with the questionable rhetorical tactics of Bill "Don't Call Me Jacob" Hamblin won't be surpised about this. Over on the ironically named FAIRboard, he has "outed" CKSalmon, as it were, posting his in real life identity directly on the board! Doesn't he know that this is a significant breach of online etiquette? Would he like it if someone posted his home address on RfM?

In any case, the mods intervened by deleting the name in the post, but it just goes to show how low the Good Professor is willing to stoop.

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:11 pm
by _Yoda
OMG!

I can't believe he really did that!

I'm sorry, but that should be a bannable offense if anything is! I know it won't be, but that's terrible. That's crossing the line of getting involved in someone's "real" life as opposed to their "internet" life.

What thread did this happen in?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:22 pm
by _Mister Scratch
The thread is called something like "CKSalmon and The Evangel," and was on pg. 2 last I checked. (It has become increasingly difficult for me to view the FAIRboards. I have been using proxies, but it seems that the FAIRmods are systematically blocking them.)

Will Shryver claimed in his follow-up post that CKSalmon is open about his in real life identity, but I don't see how that excuses Prof. Hamblin's presumptuousness and utter disregard for etiquette in this instance.

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:30 pm
by _Yoda
Wow! I just found the thread!

First Bill posts this:

So, is the C K Salmon posting here the [ deleted] of the Evangel?

Please don't disclose names without unless the poster has given permission. ~ Mod


Then...Will comes back with THIS little gem, which the Mods let stand!

QUOTE(Bill Hamblin @ Oct 30 2006, 08:01 PM)

So, is the C K Salmon posting here the Kelly Salmon who is the new editor of the Evangel?

One and the same.

And if it weren't for those crazy religious notions he has, he'd be a perfectly nice guy.

Edit (in response to the moderator comment): I don't think Kelly has made any secret of his identity on this board.


What are they thinking?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:14 pm
by _Southern Redneck
FAIR is rather slow loading with their new layout. Got a link to this thread. I looked briefly and did not come across it.

Re: Bill Hamblin "Outs" CKSalmon

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:51 am
by _harmony
Mister Scratch wrote:Those familiar with the questionable rhetorical tactics of Bill "Don't Call Me Jacob" Hamblin won't be surpised about this. Over on the ironically named FAIRboard, he has "outed" CKSalmon, as it were, posting his in real life identity directly on the board! Doesn't he know that this is a significant breach of online etiquette? Would he like it if someone posted his home address on RfM?

In any case, the mods intervened by deleting the name in the post, but it just goes to show how low the Good Professor is willing to stoop.


The same thing happened here. Shades deleted it, then the poster (who is totally anonymous and who I still don't know who it was) put the name back up, until Shades deleted it a second time and explained the breach of etiquette. I have my suspicions as to who it was, though. This kind of invasion of privacy is totally unacceptable and should be punished to the extreme.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:58 am
by _Jersey Girl
liz3564 wrote:Wow! I just found the thread!

First Bill posts this:

So, is the C K Salmon posting here the [ deleted] of the Evangel?

Please don't disclose names without unless the poster has given permission. ~ Mod


Then...Will comes back with THIS little gem, which the Mods let stand!

QUOTE(Bill Hamblin @ Oct 30 2006, 08:01 PM)

So, is the C K Salmon posting here the Kelly Salmon who is the new editor of the Evangel?

One and the same.

And if it weren't for those crazy religious notions he has, he'd be a perfectly nice guy.

Edit (in response to the moderator comment): I don't think Kelly has made any secret of his identity on this board.


What are they thinking?


What you have posted above is yet another example of the pervasive lack of integrity on FAIR. The mod stepped in to correct the violation....and let's the information stand in another post. Par for the course, folks.

Jersey Girl

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:20 am
by _moksha
When I saw that posting of what should be confidential, I shook my head in displeasure. You would think a professor at BTU would be more considerate. My concern is with how CK Salmon is taking this. Does anyone recall how FAIR reacted when then names of the Mods where released in as not as public of manner? Did they not have some vituperative feelings about it?

Wait a minute, did I really say vituperative? Did I get that off the back of a cereal box or something?

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:22 am
by _Jersey Girl
moksha wrote:When I saw that posting of what should be confidential, I shook my head in displeasure. You would think a professor at BTU would be more considerate. My concern is with how CK Salmon is taking this. Does anyone recall how FAIR reacted when then names of the Mods where released in as not as public of manner? Did they not have some vituperative feelings about it?

Wait a minute, did I really say vituperative? Did I get that off the back of a cereal box or something?


moksha,

I think you're correct when you say that a professor at BYU would be more considerate. What it "sounds" like is willful indiscretion. Perhaps there is a measure of desperation involved. Many of us who post on boards like this know eachother in some form or fashion off the boards. There are posters here on MDB who know my name, location, etc...as I do theirs. It would never cross our minds to post identification that has not been offered publicly. It seems to me that when people behave that way, they feel threatened. As if the only way to make the other person "go away" would be to issue and implied threat of some sort. In this case, the implied threat might be "I know something about you and if you don't reign yourself in...I'm going to tell all". Essentially....gossip mongering.

I remember not so long ago when challenging Juliann on some issue (can't remember what it was exactly) that she seemed to take great pleasure in characterizing the previous MDB as carrying soft porn and mentioning that I posted there, and that this was "your board". It was a form of ad hominem I suppose. Juliann must think in a vacuum. But we know that....

Jersey Girl

Re: Bill Hamblin "Outs" CKSalmon

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:32 am
by _Pahoran
Mister Scratch wrote:Those familiar with the questionable rhetorical tactics of Bill "Don't Call Me Jacob" Hamblin won't be surpised about this. Over on the ironically named FAIRboard, he has "outed" CKSalmon, as it were, posting his in real life identity directly on the board! Doesn't he know that this is a significant breach of online etiquette? Would he like it if someone posted his home address on RfM?

In any case, the mods intervened by deleting the name in the post, but it just goes to show how low the Good Professor is willing to stoop.

Almost as low as you, eh Scratchy?

Almost, but not quite.

Unlike you, Professor Hamblin doesn't make scurrilous false accusations. Unlike you, Professor Hamblin doesn't protect his claims by putting them in a "blog" and then deleting inconveniently factual replies.

Unlike you, Professor Hamblin doesn't play up to the paranoid delusions of a gang of haters by using such loaded (and false) characterisations as "orwellian" and "interrogation."

Unlike you, Professor Hamblin doesn't posture in self-righteous indignation at someone else doing the very same thing he himself did.

You know what I'm talking about, don't you?

Regards,
Pahoran