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Meeting the needs of the under-served Rich

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:27 pm
by _moksha
I was just thinking about the Church decision to build a Temple in Draper, Utah to better serve the burgeoning needs of the multi-million dollar homes in Suncrest and the rest of Draper. I can see why the homeowners would want to have a Temple, since it increases the value of their homes and makes Temple attendance easy. It is harder to understand why the Church would choose this area, because it is relatively hard to get to as opposed to other Valley locations, but it is equally hard for these folk to drive their luxury SUVs to poorer but accessible locales.

I am thinking about this in juxtaposition to the Church also wanting to build a DI in this same affluent community. The DI is a thrift store and this wealthy community thought better of bringing poor customers into their neighborhood and so blocked their building permit. Once again the Church was only desiring to help serve the needs of the under-served wealthy, but they forgot that it was not those people who shopped the DI.

Re: Meeting the needs of the under-served Rich

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:32 pm
by _Bond...James Bond
moksha wrote:I was just thinking about the Church decision to build a Temple in Draper, Utah to better serve the burgeoning needs of the multi-million dollar homes in Suncrest and the rest of Draper. I can see why the homeowners would want to have a Temple, since it increases the value of their homes and makes Temple attendance easy. It is harder to understand why the Church would choose this area, because it is relatively hard to get to as opposed to other Valley locations, but it is equally hard for these folk to drive their luxury SUVs to poorer but accessible locales.

I am thinking about this in juxtaposition to the Church also wanting to build a DI in this same affluent community. The DI is a thrift store and this wealthy community thought better of bringing poor customers into their neighborhood and so blocked their building permit. Once again the Church was only desiring to help serve the needs of the under-served wealthy, but they forgot that it was not those people who shopped the DI.


They're building more temples?

How many are their now?

Bond

Re: Meeting the needs of the under-served Rich

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:33 pm
by _MormonMendacity
moksha wrote:Once again the Church was only desiring to help serve the needs of the under-served wealthy, but they forgot that it was not those people who shopped the DI.

That was a touching story and so appropriate at Christmas. I hope they make it into a movie where the grandpa dies. That'll surely convert a lot more rich people.

Re: Meeting the needs of the under-served Rich

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:19 pm
by _Jason Bourne
I was just thinking about the Church decision to build a Temple in Draper, Utah to better serve the burgeoning needs of the multi-million dollar homes in Suncrest and the rest of Draper. I can see why the homeowners would want to have a Temple, since it increases the value of their homes and makes Temple attendance easy. It is harder to understand why the Church would choose this area, because it is relatively hard to get to as opposed to other Valley locations, but it is equally hard for these folk to drive their luxury SUVs to poorer but accessible locales.


Personally I believe a temple in this section of Draper is goofy. If you need one in Draper put it near I-15 so it is accesible. It does bug me that it will be in what used to be called Corner Canyon when I was a wee lad, that is now full of mega homes.

I am thinking about this in juxtaposition to the Church also wanting to build a DI in this same affluent community. The DI is a thrift store and this wealthy community thought better of bringing poor customers into their neighborhood and so blocked their building permit. Once again the Church was only desiring to help serve the needs of the under-served wealthy, but they forgot that it was not those people who shopped the DI.


So those in the rich area of Draper are on their Rameumptons are they? If this is true it is despicable.

Re: Meeting the needs of the under-served Rich

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:05 pm
by _Dr. Shades
Jason Bourne wrote:So those in the rich area of Draper are on their Rameumptons are they? If this is true it is despicable.


It's true. The city council forced Deseret Industries to build their outlet West of I-15 in the "ghetto" area and allowed Old Navy to build an outlet in the original spot instead.

Re: Meeting the needs of the under-served Rich

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:27 pm
by _OUT OF MY MISERY
Dr. Shades wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:So those in the rich area of Draper are on their Rameumptons are they? If this is true it is despicable.


It's true. The city council forced Deseret Industries to build their outlet West of I-15 in the "ghetto" area and allowed Old Navy to build an outlet in the original spot instead.



We allknow that only wealthy shop OLD NAVY....I did not knw there were "Ghetto" in Utah...but now that you mention it..

Maybe next they will allow Tiffany's to build there as well...Tiffany's should bring up the proerty value as well

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:26 am
by _asbestosman
I'm not exactly poor, but I enjoy shopping at DI--for electronics, CD's, tapes, and books. It's kinda like looking in a pawn shop, but cheaper. I got an unopened copy of the LDS Infobases electronic book collection for something like $5-$10. That said, I think it makes more sense to put something like DI in a poorer neighborhood. Isn't that where most of their customers are likely to be?

As to where temples should be located, aren't they generally put somewhere with high elevation (which also tends to contain more expensive homes)?

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:32 am
by _Who Knows
asbestosman wrote:That said, I think it makes more sense to put something like DI in a poorer neighborhood. Isn't that where most of their customers are likely to be?


Or....Put it in a rich neighborhood - isn't that where most of the donors should be?

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:35 am
by _harmony
asbestosman wrote:I'm not exactly poor, but I enjoy shopping at DI--for electronics, CD's, tapes, and books. It's kinda like looking in a pawn shop, but cheaper. I got an unopened copy of the LDS Infobases electronic book collection for something like $5-$10. That said, I think it makes more sense to put something like DI in a poorer neighborhood. Isn't that where most of their customers are likely to be?


If we actually had a DI around here, I'd no doubt shop at it. I love shopping at thrift shops. Discovering the hidden treasures is one of my hobbies, even though we no longer depend on my ability to find those hidden treasures.

As to where temples should be located, aren't they generally put somewhere with high elevation (which also tends to contain more expensive homes)?


Well, ours is at the base of the hill, but still in a very high class neighborhood. What's funny to me is the way the other churches around it refer to it: as the beautiful temple of our Mormon friends. This, after we refer to their beliefs as abominations. I am reminded of this irony every time I hear the radio spot.

Re: Meeting the needs of the under-served Rich

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:44 am
by _Mister Scratch
moksha wrote:I was just thinking about the Church decision to build a Temple in Draper, Utah to better serve the burgeoning needs of the multi-million dollar homes in Suncrest and the rest of Draper. I can see why the homeowners would want to have a Temple, since it increases the value of their homes and makes Temple attendance easy. It is harder to understand why the Church would choose this area, because it is relatively hard to get to as opposed to other Valley locations, but it is equally hard for these folk to drive their luxury SUVs to poorer but accessible locales.

I am thinking about this in juxtaposition to the Church also wanting to build a DI in this same affluent community. The DI is a thrift store and this wealthy community thought better of bringing poor customers into their neighborhood and so blocked their building permit. Once again the Church was only desiring to help serve the needs of the under-served wealthy, but they forgot that it was not those people who shopped the DI.


An excellent observation.

I have felt for a long time that the Church's handling of its welfare monies, so te speak, is underwhelming at best, and quite disappointing. TBMs generally tend to refer people to the Church's website when discussing the Welfare Program, but isn't there anything else? Don't we have more and/or better evidence of the Church's charitable works?