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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:49 am
by _ajax18
Does anyone have any idea how much GAs are paid in the LDS church? I know their housing is paid by the church and they probably have a nice medical plan. Would it be fair to say that some of them live much better than the average U.S. tithe payer at the Church's expense and not due to any previous personal financial gain?
Re: $$$$
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:56 am
by _Bond...James Bond
ajax18 wrote:Does anyone have any idea how much GAs are paid in the LDS church? I know their housing is paid by the church and they probably have a nice medical plan. Would it be fair to say that some of them live much better than the average U.S. tithe payer at the Church's expense and not due to any previous personal financial gain?
Don't know Ajax. The problem of an unregulated financial system in the church is one of the biggest controversies. I'd say a few of the more indepth posters here know some more information. I'd like to here some more information too. Other posters?
Bond
Re: $$$$
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:10 pm
by _Mister Scratch
ajax18 wrote:Does anyone have any idea how much GAs are paid in the LDS church? I know their housing is paid by the church and they probably have a nice medical plan. Would it be fair to say that some of them live much better than the average U.S. tithe payer at the Church's expense and not due to any previous personal financial gain?
The GAs receive a yearly stipend that is somewhere in the neighborhood of $70,000, on top of all the other expenses that are paid for by the Church. It would most definitely be "fair" to say that they live a good deal better, financially speaking, than the average US tithe payer. Prior to the 1980s and 90s, most of them had cushy, CEO-type positions that provided them with huge salaries. Obviously, this made it seem as if they were using their high station in the Church in order to get rich. SWK set the example by giving up his position, and urged the rest of the Brethren to do the same, something that didn't happen for another fifteen years or so, mostly due to the fact that the Brethren enjoyed being rich. Of course, they still make extra money from their speaking engagements, and from booksales, so by and large, most of them do extremely well.
The TBM counterargument to this usually had something to do with the fact that all of the GAs could be making a whole lot more money in the secular world, or that the GAs have such a tough job that the 70 thou seems like small potatoes---basically anything that will play down the fact that these men have a good deal of wealth, and an enormous amount of power, and that this is a "reward," so to speak, of their ecclesiastical callings.
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:20 pm
by _ajax18
Thanks Mr. Scratch. That's an interesting piece of information, and I bet that wasn't very easy to find out. I bet most TBMs from my small town don't have any idea how much the GAs make. My next question is do you think it would bother most Mormons if they knew the truth about how much GAs are paid?
Perhaps not, but it sure would be nice to know the truth of the whole thing.
Re: $$$$
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:52 pm
by _Bond...James Bond
Mister Scratch wrote:ajax18 wrote:Does anyone have any idea how much GAs are paid in the LDS church? I know their housing is paid by the church and they probably have a nice medical plan. Would it be fair to say that some of them live much better than the average U.S. tithe payer at the Church's expense and not due to any previous personal financial gain?
The GAs receive a yearly stipend that is somewhere in the neighborhood of $70,000, on top of all the other expenses that are paid for by the Church. It would most definitely be "fair" to say that they live a good deal better, financially speaking, than the average US tithe payer. Prior to the 1980s and 90s, most of them had cushy, CEO-type positions that provided them with huge salaries. Obviously, this made it seem as if they were using their high station in the Church in order to get rich. SWK set the example by giving up his position, and urged the rest of the Brethren to do the same, something that didn't happen for another fifteen years or so, mostly due to the fact that the Brethren enjoyed being rich. Of course, they still make extra money from their speaking engagements, and from booksales, so by and large, most of them do extremely well.
The TBM counterargument to this usually had something to do with the fact that all of the GAs could be making a whole lot more money in the secular world, or that the GAs have such a tough job that the 70 thou seems like small potatoes---basically anything that will play down the fact that these men have a good deal of wealth, and an enormous amount of power, and that this is a "reward," so to speak, of their ecclesiastical callings.
Does anyone know how many other ways the Church leaders have for making money? Books? Speaking Engagements?
Bond
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:44 pm
by _OUT OF MY MISERY
I am pretty sure someone knows but they don't want to reveal the truth...you know how truth can be at times...a little hard to swallow for some....but I am pretty sure someone will tell you...if not Google it...Talk to you later
Re: $$$$
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:04 pm
by _Mercury
Bond...James Bond wrote:Mister Scratch wrote:ajax18 wrote:Does anyone have any idea how much GAs are paid in the LDS church? I know their housing is paid by the church and they probably have a nice medical plan. Would it be fair to say that some of them live much better than the average U.S. tithe payer at the Church's expense and not due to any previous personal financial gain?
The GAs receive a yearly stipend that is somewhere in the neighborhood of $70,000, on top of all the other expenses that are paid for by the Church. It would most definitely be "fair" to say that they live a good deal better, financially speaking, than the average US tithe payer. Prior to the 1980s and 90s, most of them had cushy, CEO-type positions that provided them with huge salaries. Obviously, this made it seem as if they were using their high station in the Church in order to get rich. SWK set the example by giving up his position, and urged the rest of the Brethren to do the same, something that didn't happen for another fifteen years or so, mostly due to the fact that the Brethren enjoyed being rich. Of course, they still make extra money from their speaking engagements, and from booksales, so by and large, most of them do extremely well.
The TBM counterargument to this usually had something to do with the fact that all of the GAs could be making a whole lot more money in the secular world, or that the GAs have such a tough job that the 70 thou seems like small potatoes---basically anything that will play down the fact that these men have a good deal of wealth, and an enormous amount of power, and that this is a "reward," so to speak, of their ecclesiastical callings.
Does anyone know how many other ways the Church leaders have for making money? Books? Speaking Engagements?
Bond
The political capitol conferred onto the GA's is itself worth hundreds of thousands. I wish I could have decided who got the escrow account for the two billion dollar mall. I'm sure it didn't go very far from "the family".
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:19 pm
by _OUT OF MY MISERY
Why am I not surprised at this???
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:35 am
by _Dr. Shades
After George P. Lee was excommunicated, a story was done about it in one of Salt Lake City's newspapers. It mentioned, in passing, Lee's comment about how tough it was to have to give up his church-issued credit card with its unlimited spending account.
So it came out that GAs receive, at the church's dime, an unlimited spending account. How sweet would that be?
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:48 pm
by _OUT OF MY MISERY
That Credit card would be sweet and they probably could write everything off ...or pay with tithing