Are Hamblin and Schryver the Same Person?

Post by **_Mister Scratch** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:09 pm

An intriguing, conspiracy-theory nugget was posted to my blog recently:

The Webelo wrote:I know that "Schryver"/"Provis" occasionally mentioned his mission in southern Italy - and it is common knowledge at BYU that Bill Hamblin served in the Italy South Mission. Plus, I think it's interesting that it was Bill Hamblin who suddenly appeared to support Schryver in his debate with Vogel about the KEP. Are Hamblin/Schryver/Provis the same person? I don't know. I've also heard that Schryver was Lou Midgley undercover. Either way, I'm pretty sure that there is no real person named William Schryver. He was just one of several sockpuppets being used by someone at FARMS who wanted to keep his real identity a secret. Also interesting is that Schryver has now disappeared from the FAIR/MAAD board. No posts for several weeks. The question is: who is he now?

Believe it or not, I actually find the "Hamblin-is-Schryver" theory to be pretty compelling. After all, Prof. Hamblin has been remarkably well-behaved in comparison to his colleague, DCP. I can really only think of two big embarrassments for Hamblin (the Watson letter, and the "Metcalfe is Butthead" incident), whereas the list of foul-ups for Prof. Peterson is long indeed. Perhaps the reason for this is that Prof. Hamblin engages in the most controversial subjects by way of his sockpuppet, Will Schryver. An interesting (not to mention hilarious) theory in any case.

Anyhow, I just wondered what others thought. It seems clear that, at the very least, "Schryver" lives in Utah, probably in the vicinity of SLC, due to his investigations into Dan Vogel's research. Also, there does indeed appear to be somebody called "Will Schryver," though whether this is a pseudonym or not remains to be seen. I suppose the Lou Midgley thesis is plausible, too, though for whatever reason I'm leaning towards Hamblin....

All of this could be a ploy on "Will's" part to throw people off the scent, too. Perhaps he felt that he'd dug himself into such a deep hole that it was time to re-tool by means of a fresh sockpuppet. I also wondered if he was in some way behind the "purchase" of the MAD board.

Okay, enough speculating. For now, anyways... ; )

Post by **_Phaedrus Ut** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:48 pm

I highly doubt it's Hamblin or Midgley. There is a difference between a amateur apologist and someone with a academic background faithfully doing apologetics.

My guess is that the name isn't a pseudonym.

Phaedrus

/not my real name either

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:52 pm

Wow! Is there a record for the most sock puppets by one person? It appears some of these guys are running out of appendages. Where will they stick the next sock?

Bond

Post by **_moksha** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:02 pm

Is there any reason to believe he is not a lawyer in Cedar City instead of a Professor in Provo?

Post by **_The Dude** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:14 pm

"Who Knows" actually met Will Schryver at the FAIR conference. He is neither Hamblin or Midgley. He's just Will Shryver.

Now stop pumping his ego! :D

Post by **_Who Knows** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:18 pm

The Dude wrote:"Who Knows" actually met Will Schryver at the FAIR conference. He is neither Hamblin or Midgley. He's just Will Shryver.

Now stop pumping his ego! :D

Duder's correct. Will Schryver is an actual person. He did the filming of the FAIR conference. I shook his hand (which, in hindsight might not have been the smartest thing - what, with his obsession with circle jerks and all...)

;)

Post by **_Mister Scratch** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:09 pm

Who Knows wrote:
The Dude wrote:"Who Knows" actually met Will Schryver at the FAIR conference. He is neither Hamblin or Midgley. He's just Will Shryver.

Now stop pumping his ego! :D

Duder's correct. Will Schryver is an actual person. He did the filming of the FAIR conference. I shook his hand (which, in hindsight might not have been the smartest thing - what, with his obsession with circle jerks and all...)

;)

Well then, that settles it! I guess the anonymous posts to the blog were from Schryver himself, then. All an attempt to deflect attention away. Or something like that.

Post by **_Kevin Graham** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:30 pm

Damn, if that was not the worst possible insult to Hamblin, I am not sure what is.

Post by **_The Dude** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:04 pm

Who Knows wrote:
The Dude wrote:"Who Knows" actually met Will Schryver at the FAIR conference. He is neither Hamblin or Midgley. He's just Will Shryver.

Now stop pumping his ego! :D

Duder's correct. Will Schryver is an actual person. He did the filming of the FAIR conference. I shook his hand (which, in hindsight might not have been the smartest thing - what, with his obsession with circle jerks and all...)

;)

Gross!

(Right after what I said about his ego.)

Double gross!!!

Post by **_Dr. Shades** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:31 am

This is all pretty interesting.

Remember when Will Schryver was asking ex-Mormons to be interviewed for his documentary? I wondered if anyone had shown up for that and had therefore met him face-to-face.

But then The Dude made his post, and the point was moot. At least, I think it's moot: Who Knows, you say Will Schryver was filming the FAIR conference. Was Bill Hamblin also at the conference?