DCP: "RfM is My Laboratory"
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:44 am
Holy cow... I can hardly believe I am seeing this! Prof. Peterson has at last come out an admitted that his obsession with RfM extends into the professional realm. Not only does he participate in a sort of juvenile, back-and-forth name-calling badmitton with many of the posters over there, he has now declared that it is an object of serious academic scrutiny for himself:
Stunning, eh? For those who wondered why he doesn't have more peer-reviewed publications in his chosen field of study, now you have an answer from the man himself. But what kind of "laboratory" houses a scientist who routinely flings petty insults and mud at his object of study? In fact, here is DCP's current signature line:
What could honestly be the purpose of this? If you're asking yourself this question, you can rest assured that you are not alone. Here is the poster called "gitxanartist":
What do you suppose DCP's reply is? Are you imaging that he says, "Hey, yeah. You're right. It's sort of pointless for me to cite these insulting quotes like this. In fact, it seems a tad sophomoric." If so, you will be disappointed:
Well, perhaps it's just me, but I can't see any "fault finding" in gitxanartist's post... What is it that DCP is talking about? Does he honestly think his use of this material in his signature line is totally benign and void of any political significance? Does he think this somehow makes him seem more benevolent and saintly?
A bit later, Uncle Dale offers up this sage piece of advice:
Prof. Peterson, unfortunately, often dislikes advice. Read on:
And U. Dale's reply:
Now watch as DCP reneges on his initial claim:
In other words, he does implicitly "hate [his] enemies, curse them, do evil to them, and refuse to pray for them" "from time to time." Actually, I seem to recall an email posted by Rollo Tomasi in which DCP really did proceed to issue a number of GA-style curses. So at least he's being honest. For now.
A bit further on, in an inadvertent refutation of juliann's nonsensical apostate argument, DCP offers up this satiric response to a post from "veritasvocat"
Anyways, back to D'unk's observation, which is expanded upon here by Tarski:
Yes, I am too. It is really commendable that Prof. Peterson is so charitable towards people who, by all appearances, are his enemies. Oh, wait a sec....
Ah! So that's how it is. Funny how he left out the "hate," "do evil to," and "refuse to pray for" part via that neat little "etc."---it's is if he can't bear to repeat the words which are closest to his heart. Finally, he offers up this priceless (and completely hypocritical) nugget:
Then what, pray tell, is the purpose of your signature line, Prof. Peterson? Do you simply want to "embarrass" these offenders, and if so, to what end? To make them look bad? To make yourself look better? What?
In any case, I am betting that Prof. P. is going to sorely regret the comments he made in this thread. Lol.....
(emphasis added)Daniel Peterson wrote:Ray, one of the reasons that I keep something of an eye on RFM is that I'm interested, precisely, in the kinds of things that lead people out of the Church. I've publicly said, on at least a couple of occasions, that it's a kind of laboratory for me. I'm quite serious about that. (Some there, I know, think that I have a calling or am being paid to monitor RFM. That's not true. But, of course, since it's an article of faith with some of them that I'm a professional liar, I don't suppose it does much good for me to deny it.)
Stunning, eh? For those who wondered why he doesn't have more peer-reviewed publications in his chosen field of study, now you have an answer from the man himself. But what kind of "laboratory" houses a scientist who routinely flings petty insults and mud at his object of study? In fact, here is DCP's current signature line:
Daniel Peterson wrote:"Why are those at Mormonapologetics.org are [sic] vicious, cowardly refuse? . . . I see the lot as cowardly human refuse." (Green Messiah, "Recovery" board, 30 December 2006)
"The man is a barracuda! . . . He is a mean spirited person of the highest order. I have no sympathy for this poor excuse for a human being at all! Blech!!!" (Lucyfer, "Recovery" board, 26 December 2006, regarding Daniel Peterson [a.k.a. "El Lardo"])
What could honestly be the purpose of this? If you're asking yourself this question, you can rest assured that you are not alone. Here is the poster called "gitxanartist":
gitxanartist wrote:Your not going to get civil anything with them with that signature of yours. That just stirs the pot even further, am I wrong?
What do you suppose DCP's reply is? Are you imaging that he says, "Hey, yeah. You're right. It's sort of pointless for me to cite these insulting quotes like this. In fact, it seems a tad sophomoric." If so, you will be disappointed:
Daniel Peterson wrote:I'm only quoting them. I've got two or three dozen more such quotations on file -- the search function at RFM is pretty good, and I find such things amusing -- and could easily have had several times that many, and some considerably worse. (Would you be interested in the insults directed toward my wife?)
The uncivil offenses haven't been coming from me. And it seems odd (to me, at least) to fault the person who cites an insult directed against himself, as if he were the guilty party rather than the person who offered the insult.
Well, perhaps it's just me, but I can't see any "fault finding" in gitxanartist's post... What is it that DCP is talking about? Does he honestly think his use of this material in his signature line is totally benign and void of any political significance? Does he think this somehow makes him seem more benevolent and saintly?
A bit later, Uncle Dale offers up this sage piece of advice:
Uncle Dale wrote:"Ye have heard that it hath been said,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies,
bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you,
and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you."
Prof. Peterson, unfortunately, often dislikes advice. Read on:
Daniel Peterson wrote:If you're trying to say that I hate my enemies, curse them, do evil to them, and refuse to pray for them, and to suggest that I cease doing so, I can only wonder which one of my posts here granted you this insight into my character and intimate behavior.
And U. Dale's reply:
Uncle Dale wrote:You misunderstand me, Doc. -- I was speaking of your foe, not you.
But, if the shoe fits, it is one might all wear now and then, eh?
Now watch as DCP reneges on his initial claim:
Daniel Peterson wrote:I'm sure that all do wear it from time to time. But, by and large, that's not one of my principal failings. (I have others that I cherish.)
In other words, he does implicitly "hate [his] enemies, curse them, do evil to them, and refuse to pray for them" "from time to time." Actually, I seem to recall an email posted by Rollo Tomasi in which DCP really did proceed to issue a number of GA-style curses. So at least he's being honest. For now.
A bit further on, in an inadvertent refutation of juliann's nonsensical apostate argument, DCP offers up this satiric response to a post from "veritasvocat"
(emphasis added---actually, the board only forbids embarrassing, damaging criticism)Daniel Peterson wrote:veritasvocat wrote:Both boards are EXACTLY the same in character, the ONLY difference is which side of the debate they are on.
You're right. They're indistinguishable.
RFM forbids defense of the Church. This board forbids criticisms of it.
I'm barred from posting on RFM. You're barred from posting here.
RFM trafficks heavily in personal and collective attacks on "Morgbots" as, among other things, cheapskates, fascists, ignoramuses, liars, fools, sociopaths, fakes, arrogant fanatics, madmen, Morons (get it?), hacks, tyrants, social climbers, and pigs. This board, I guess, does precisely the same (though I must have missed all of those posts).
Identical.
Anyways, back to D'unk's observation, which is expanded upon here by Tarski:
Tarski wrote:I am quite impressed if you actually do routinely "bless", "pray for" and "do good for" Tal Bachman, Bob McCue or Steve Benson.
Yes, I am too. It is really commendable that Prof. Peterson is so charitable towards people who, by all appearances, are his enemies. Oh, wait a sec....
Daniel Peterson wrote:I didn't say one way or the other whether I "bless," "pray for," and "do good" for Messrs. Bachman, McCue, and Benson. And I won't. I did, however, implicitly deny cursing them, etc. And I'm happy to make that denial explicit.
Ah! So that's how it is. Funny how he left out the "hate," "do evil to," and "refuse to pray for" part via that neat little "etc."---it's is if he can't bear to repeat the words which are closest to his heart. Finally, he offers up this priceless (and completely hypocritical) nugget:
(emphasis added)Daniel Peterson wrote:Candidly, I don't aspire to impress anybody with what I do in my private prayers. I'm not going to lay them out here for critique or comment, and I'm not going to use them to boast. They're exactly none of anybody else's business. I'm not here to preen myself on my righteousness or my superior spirituality. You will also not see a list of my charitable donations, however long or short it may be.
Thank you very much.
Then what, pray tell, is the purpose of your signature line, Prof. Peterson? Do you simply want to "embarrass" these offenders, and if so, to what end? To make them look bad? To make yourself look better? What?
In any case, I am betting that Prof. P. is going to sorely regret the comments he made in this thread. Lol.....