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I found the following assertion from Misery on the Jesus is a Mormon thread so incredible that I did not want it to get lost.

I know what Harmony was doing....I am glad she is saying this and making MEN think...Hopefully Harmony can accomplish this...She can hold her own...I would be so hurt if I was Jewish...I know too many Jewish people...and it justs hurts me to hear that.....

I'm just curious, in view of the fact that so many Jewish people are so very, very concerned with maintaining a connection with Jesus, does anyone else share Misery’s pain when reading the words, “Jesus is a Mormon”?

Doesn't it seem wrong to call Jesus after one of the people in the Book of Mormon?

I think what is even more offensive is the fact Mormons believe themselves to be the culmination of the jewish faith.

And I am speaking as a Jew.

Doesn't it seem wrong to call Jesus after one of the people in the Book of Mormon?

I see. So Misery didn’t notice the article. She thought Latter-day Saints believe that “Jesus is Mormon.”

No wonder she took offense for and in behalf of the Jews.

I think what is even more offensive is the fact Mormons believe themselves to be the culmination of the jewish faith.

And I am speaking as a Jew.

Which Jewish faith do Mormons believe they culminate?

Enuma Elish wrote:

I think what is even more offensive is the fact Mormons believe themselves to be the culmination of the jewish faith.

And I am speaking as a Jew.

Which Jewish faith do Mormons believe they culminate?

Their understanding of the jewish faith does not extend that far, thus they believe to be just "post-jews".

I believe FARMS leans toward Qumran but the "common folk" just say "the jews".

Sidenote: On several occasions I heard from the pulpit individuals state the holocaust was for killing Jesus. Connected to the fact there are many jewish faiths, this is troubling for this view as it was all jews in Germany, etc that were subject to the evil Genocide.

Their understanding of the Jewish faith does not extend that far, thus they believe to be just "post-jews".

Well, I am a Mormon and I would never refer to myself as a “post-Jew.”

I believe FARMS leans toward Qumran but the "common folk" just say "the jews".

You can’t be serious. FARMS believes that Mormonism is the culmination of Qumranic Judaism?!

I would really love to read the reference. Can you provide it?

Sidenote: On several occasions I heard from the pulpit individuals state the holocaust was for killing Jesus. Connected to the fact there are many jewish faiths, this is troubling for this view as it was all jews in Germany, etc that were subject to the evil Genocide.

In all sincerity, what a horrible travesty! From which pulpit did you hear this preached?

Enuma Elish wrote:

Their understanding of the Jewish faith does not extend that far, thus they believe to be just "post-jews".

Well, I am a Mormon and I would never refer to myself as a “post-Jew.”

I believe FARMS leans toward Qumran but the "common folk" just say "the jews".

You can’t be serious. FARMS believes that Mormonism is the culmination of Qumranic Judaism?!

I would really love to read the reference. Can you provide it?

Sidenote: On several occasions I heard from the pulpit individuals state the holocaust was for killing Jesus. Connected to the fact there are many jewish faiths, this is troubling for this view as it was all jews in Germany, etc that were subject to the evil Genocide.

In all sincerity, what a horrible travesty! From which pulpit did you hear this preached?

Yes, the Dead Sea Scrolls tour in 2000 used mock ups to draw in non Mormons (no one came, at least in Minnesota). In this they drew the same connection pseudohistorians made, that of Jesus being from qumran, etc. We as missionaries were to stand on hand and pass out the Book of Mormon at the end of the tour, coached by the FARMS douches to make connections between the dead sea scrolls and the gold plates.

My mission president on several occasions would draw the conclusions between Mormons and jews, Mormons fulfilling the "post-jesus judaism".

VegasRefugee,

This is really quite amazing!

Yes, the Dead Sea Scrolls tour in 2000 used mock ups to draw in non Mormons (no one came, at least in Minnesota).

Could please explain what you mean by a “mock up”?

In this they drew the same connection pseudohistorians made, that of Jesus being from qumran, etc.

Could please define the pronoun? Exactly who made the assertion that Jesus came from Qumran?

We as missionaries were to stand on hand and pass out the Book of Mormon at the end of the tour, coached by the FARMS douches to make connections between the dead sea scrolls and the gold plates.

Please explain the connections you were coached into making and who were the "FARMS douches" that did the coaching.

My mission president on several occasions would draw the conclusions between Mormons and jews, Mormons fulfilling the "post-jesus judaism".

I’m sorry, but this makes absolutely no sense to me-- and I was involved with the project as a tour guide at BYU. What do you mean by the expression “the post-Jesus Judaism” and in what way did your Mission President see Mormons fulfilling this phenomenon?

EE

I will defend anyone that deserves to be defended...I am surprised that youdo not understand why it would be offense to Jewish people ...I mean considering how easily offended Mormons are.....

Do you know any Jewish people yourself personally???

I feel that once again you are trying to lump everything and everyone into Mormonisn...which if that is the case you will be met with much opposition on this board....

This is the reason that I will never belong to an organized religion ever in my life....it is simply easier to remain unattached to anyone one belief system...much much easier