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If the Word of Wisdom prohibits alcohol consumption
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:35 pm
by _Jersey Girl
why did the Prophet Joseph Smith himself partake of alcohol?
Jersey Girl
Re: If the Word of Wisdom prohibits alcohol consumption
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:42 pm
by _harmony
Jersey Girl wrote:why did the Prophet Joseph Smith himself partake of alcohol?
Jersey Girl
He also owned a bar.
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:45 pm
by _Jersey Girl
Thanks, harmony, I'm asking these "if" questions on behalf of another person who is interested in investigating the church. These are sample questions I've given this person to ask of missionaries with whom they are meeting right now.
Jersey Girl
Re: If the Word of Wisdom prohibits alcohol consumption
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:45 pm
by _Bond...James Bond
harmony wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:why did the Prophet Joseph Smith himself partake of alcohol?
Jersey Girl
He also owned a bar.
Sounds like a sitcom. Guy owns a bar but preaches against it.
Coming soon on ABC...A Hypocrite, A Harem, and A Hooch House.
Didn't the Word of Wisdom come out years after Smith's death?
Bond
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:08 am
by _Jersey Girl
harmony,
You say that Joseph Smith owned a bar. Do you mean that he had a bar in his own private home or that he owned a business that included the serving of alcohol to patrons?
Jersey Girl
Re: If the Word of Wisdom prohibits alcohol consumption
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:14 am
by _asbestosman
D&C 89 does not prohibit alcohol consumption. It simply recommends that one not use it (with a possible exceptoin for the sacrament). Seems like good advice if you ask me.
Re: If the Word of Wisdom prohibits alcohol consumption
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:20 am
by _Bryan Inks
asbestosman wrote:D&C 89 does not prohibit alcohol consumption. It simply recommends that one not use it (with a possible exceptoin for the sacrament). Seems like good advice if you ask me.
Then why is abstinence from alcohol a requirement to get into the temple and, ultimately, heaven?
Re: If the Word of Wisdom prohibits alcohol consumption
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:32 am
by _Jersey Girl
Bond...James Bond wrote:harmony wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:why did the Prophet Joseph Smith himself partake of alcohol?
Jersey Girl
He also owned a bar.
Sounds like a sitcom. Guy owns a bar but preaches against it.
Coming soon on ABC...A Hypocrite, A Harem, and A Hooch House.
Didn't the Word of Wisdom come out years after Smith's death?
Bond
Not according to this link or have I misread it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Wisdom
Re: If the Word of Wisdom prohibits alcohol consumption
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:41 am
by _harmony
Jersey Girl wrote:Bond...James Bond wrote:harmony wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:why did the Prophet Joseph Smith himself partake of alcohol?
Jersey Girl
He also owned a bar.
Sounds like a sitcom. Guy owns a bar but preaches against it.
Coming soon on ABC...A Hypocrite, A Harem, and A Hooch House.
Didn't the Word of Wisdom come out years after Smith's death?
Bond
Not according to this link or have I misread it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Wisdom
Seems to me like the bar was in the hotel that Joseph ran. I'm fuzzy with cold meds, so I may be thinking of someone else.
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:51 am
by _truth dancer
You know what is weird...
The D&C specifically states that the WoW came as a revelation. Now... as a believer, if God gives a revelation wouldn't you think it should be followed?
The D&C says it is not a commandment but a revelation. So, what... one only has to abide by God's word if God commands it? I just found it weird that the excuse for Joseph Smith was that God didn't command one to follow the WoW so it is not big deal.
In other words, God gives a revelation to a prophet and he doesn't abide by it because it was not commanded of him.
I hear this excuse a lot regarding the revelation to eat mean sparingly... so what if God said this, it is not a commandment so eat as much as you want. OK... whatever.
What baffles me is why this NON-commandment all of a sudden became a requirement to get into the CKHL. Of course the answer is, God can do as he wishes and so he can change whatever he wants to... scripture says it is not a commandment, prophet says it is, prophet Trump's scripture I guess.
~dancer~