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DCP Publishes Material from this Board---Sans Attribution!

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:09 am
by _Mister Scratch
Wow! Well, I have to say that I am flattered that the Good Professor feels that my critique is worth of mention in such a "scholarly" journal as FARMS Review! Check it out:

http://farms.BYU.edu/display.php?table=review&id=621

I should probably say that my quote is the one that mentions a "cabal of 'yes-men." Of course, the average reader isn't going to know that, since DCP didn't bother to use appropriate attribution!. Come now, last time I checked, the standards for citation listed by the MLA, or the APA had updated themselves to reckon with our new, digital, Internet days! So why doesn't Professor Peterson at least acknowledge that he lifted these quotes from this website? I'm so hurt!

Anyways, I intend to post a more in-depth rebuttal to this intro in a couple of days or so. I just thought I'd call everyone's attention to this very intriguing article. Also, unless I'm mistaken, he printed material written by Kevin Graham and Rollo Tomasi as well (also unattributed).

Re: DCP Publishes Material from this Board---Sans Attributio

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:15 am
by _rcrocket
Mister Scratch wrote:
Anyways, I intend to post a more in-depth rebuttal to this intro in a couple of days or so. I just thought I'd call everyone's attention to this very intriguing article. Also, unless I'm mistaken, he printed material written by Kevin Graham and Rollo Tomasi as well (also unattributed).


Oh my goodness. What a shock! Oops -- wait a minute!! Aren't you anonymous? Yes! Anonymous dorks lack standing.

P

Re: DCP Publishes Material from this Board---Sans Attributio

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:18 am
by _Mister Scratch
Plutarch wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:
Anyways, I intend to post a more in-depth rebuttal to this intro in a couple of days or so. I just thought I'd call everyone's attention to this very intriguing article. Also, unless I'm mistaken, he printed material written by Kevin Graham and Rollo Tomasi as well (also unattributed).


Oh my goodness. What a shock! Oops -- wait a minute!! Aren't you anonymous? Yes! Anonymous dorks lack standing.

P


No; that's not true. Professional standards for citations have been expanded to handle the demands of the Digital Age. There are conventions for citing all kinds of Web-based material. DCP evidently felt it was okay to skirt around the rules on this one.

Re: DCP Publishes Material from this Board---Sans Attributio

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:45 am
by _Jersey Girl
Plutarch wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:
Anyways, I intend to post a more in-depth rebuttal to this intro in a couple of days or so. I just thought I'd call everyone's attention to this very intriguing article. Also, unless I'm mistaken, he printed material written by Kevin Graham and Rollo Tomasi as well (also unattributed).


Oh my goodness. What a shock! Oops -- wait a minute!! Aren't you anonymous? Yes! Anonymous dorks lack standing.

P


Kevin Graham isn't anonymous and I don't know about Rollo. You might want to look up internet copyright law as it applies to the use of pseudonyms. Just a suggestion. If I recall correctly, there is some protection for anonymous person's who publish on boards like this using pseudonyms.

Was Mark Twain an anonymous dork? Just curious....

Jersey Girl

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:59 am
by _moksha
A most unusual introduction with all the defense of Louis Midgley and all the digs at Dan Vogel. Still, I guess it relates somehow.

Re: DCP Publishes Material from this Board---Sans Attributio

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:00 am
by _wenglund
Mister Scratch wrote:Wow! Well, I have to say that I am flattered that the Good Professor feels that my critique is worth of mention in such a "scholarly" journal as FARMS Review! Check it out:

http://farms.BYU.edu/display.php?table=review&id=621

I should probably say that my quote is the one that mentions a "cabal of 'yes-men." Of course, the average reader isn't going to know that, since DCP didn't bother to use appropriate attribution!. Come now, last time I checked, the standards for citation listed by the MLA, or the APA had updated themselves to reckon with our new, digital, Internet days! So why doesn't Professor Peterson at least acknowledge that he lifted these quotes from this website? I'm so hurt!

Anyways, I intend to post a more in-depth rebuttal to this intro in a couple of days or so. I just thought I'd call everyone's attention to this very intriguing article. Also, unless I'm mistaken, he printed material written by Kevin Graham and Rollo Tomasi as well (also unattributed).


This seems a little odd to me. You purposely post under a fictional screen name so as to maintain anonymity, and yet you wish to be attributed for what you say under that fictional name? Do the standards for citation cover statements made real people operating under the guise of fictional characters?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:05 am
by _dartagnan
Keep in mind that FARMS attributed an entire article to Shades (pseudonymn) and his website.

So to argue that a pseudonym means attribution is unwarranted, won't hold water.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:06 am
by _Bond...James Bond
Which parts had been used and who originally wrote them?

(I'm not being lazy. I read through it but couldn't figure out which parts you're talking about)

Bond

Re: DCP Publishes Material from this Board---Sans Attributio

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:09 am
by _wenglund
Jersey Girl wrote: Kevin Graham isn't anonymous and I don't know about Rollo. You might want to look up internet copyright law as it applies to the use of pseudonyms. Just a suggestion. If I recall correctly, there is some protection for anonymous person's who publish on boards like this using pseudonyms. Was Mark Twain an anonymous dork? Just curious....Jersey Girl


I was told by the person using the screen name of Kevin Graham that that is not his real name. I don't know about Rollo.

And, do you seriously think it reasonable to compare Mark Twain with Mr. Scratch?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Re: DCP Publishes Material from this Board---Sans Attributio

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:16 am
by _Yoda
wenglund wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:Wow! Well, I have to say that I am flattered that the Good Professor feels that my critique is worth of mention in such a "scholarly" journal as FARMS Review! Check it out:

http://farms.BYU.edu/display.php?table=review&id=621

I should probably say that my quote is the one that mentions a "cabal of 'yes-men." Of course, the average reader isn't going to know that, since DCP didn't bother to use appropriate attribution!. Come now, last time I checked, the standards for citation listed by the MLA, or the APA had updated themselves to reckon with our new, digital, Internet days! So why doesn't Professor Peterson at least acknowledge that he lifted these quotes from this website? I'm so hurt!

Anyways, I intend to post a more in-depth rebuttal to this intro in a couple of days or so. I just thought I'd call everyone's attention to this very intriguing article. Also, unless I'm mistaken, he printed material written by Kevin Graham and Rollo Tomasi as well (also unattributed).


This seems a little odd to me. You purposely post under a fictional screen name so as to maintain anonymity, and yet you wish to be attributed for what you say under that fictional name? Do the standards for citation cover statements made real people operating under the guise of fictional characters?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


I see your point, but I also see Scratch's. It really isn't any different than using a pen name. Authors do it all the time.