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Mitt Romney busted on TV for lying about Mormon doctrine!!
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:46 pm
by _Polygamy Porter
Sweet mother of truth!
Thank you Mormon Mitt!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nnSe238oUM
Mitt is asked how he thinks the Muslims will react when they find out he believes(according to his faith) that Jesus will come back to the earth and reign over the US...
He flatly denies it.
George Stephanopoulos says he called a Mormon representative and they did not back Mitts lies!!!
SWEET!!!!
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:57 pm
by _Who Knows
Hah, yeah, that's pretty bad. I don't think Mitt can claim ignorance here. I think every TBM knows Jesus will return to Adam-ondi-ahman (or however the heck you spell it).
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:03 pm
by _Coggins7
Nice try PP, but its so easy to dismantle slush like this that its almost beyond respectablilty as an educated Latter Day Saint.
In the first place, we need to be on gaurd for the standard Leftist medai gotchya jounalism from the outset. Stephie's actual question, the question he claimed he actually asked Mitt, is not present in the video, nor is Mitt's entire answer, which has obviously been edited. This looks like the old Sixty Minutes technique of shooting hours of film during an interview and then editing that down to a few minutes of highly fragmented diaglog. One can get anyone to say anthing one wants in this way, irregardless of what the interviewee actually said.
The most interesting thing about this whole thing is that what Mitt said was doctrinally correct, as far as we have the entire interview (which ABC apparantly didn't want us to see) and Stephie's analysis of Mormon doctrine is false. The Church doesn't teach that the New Jeurusalem will be in America and not in the Middle East. The Church teaches that there will be two great world centers of government from which Christ will rule the millenial earth: one in the old world Jeurusalem, and another in North America.
So Stephie has it wrong (and if he has really talked to a Mormon spokesperson (whome, conveinently, he does not name), he would have been apprised of this. Or was he, but he just happened to omit that little caveat?) and the Romney interview is so highly edited as to make it impossible to ascertain the totality of Romney's answer (to what question we don't know, as Stephie didn't let us hear the original question, but only his claim as to what it contained).
These are all the old liberal media tricks of the trade to which we've all become accustomed over the last 35 years or so, and neither PP, ABC, or any of the old media are fooling anywhere near as many of us as they were once able to do.
Try again PP, but this time at least give it the old college try.
Re: Mitt Romney busted on TV for lying about Mormon doctrine
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:09 pm
by _Jason Bourne
Polygamy Porter wrote:Sweet mother of truth!
Thank you Mormon Mitt!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nnSe238oUMMitt is asked how he thinks the Muslims will react when they find out he believes(according to his faith) that Jesus will come back to the earth and reign over the US...
He flatly denies it.
George Stephanopoulos says he called a Mormon representative and they did not back Mitts lies!!!
SWEET!!!!
Mormons do not believe Jesus will return to reign over just the US. They believe he will visit, along with Adam all the priesthood leadership of the Church at Adam on Diahman, prior to his general appearence in Jerusalem and in ZION, shich LDS believe will still be in Jackson County Missouri.
Study up boys on out doctrine a bit would ya.
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:19 pm
by _guy sajer
Coggins7 wrote:Nice try PP, but its so easy to dismantle slush like this that its almost beyond respectablilty as an educated Latter Day Saint.
In the first place, we need to be on gaurd for the standard Leftist medai gotchya jounalism from the outset. Stephie's actual question, the question he claimed he actually asked Mitt, is not present in the video, nor is Mitt's entire answer, which has obviously been edited. This looks like the old Sixty Minutes technique of shooting hours of film during an interview and then editing that down to a few minutes of highly fragmented diaglog. One can get anyone to say anthing one wants in this way, irregardless of what the interviewee actually said.
The most interesting thing about this whole thing is that what Mitt said was doctrinally correct, as far as we have the entire interview (which ABC apparantly didn't want us to see) and Stephie's analysis of Mormon doctrine is false. The Church doesn't teach that the New Jeurusalem will be in America and not in the Middle East. The Church teaches that there will be two great world centers of government from which Christ will rule the millenial earth: one in the old world Jeurusalem, and another in North America.
So Stephie has it wrong (and if he has really talked to a Mormon spokesperson (whome, conveinently, he does not name), he would have been apprised of this. Or was he, but he just happened to omit that little caveat?) and the Romney interview is so highly edited as to make it impossible to ascertain the totality of Romney's answer (to what question we don't know, as Stephie didn't let us hear the original question, but only his claim as to what it contained).
These are all the old liberal media tricks of the trade to which we've all become accustomed over the last 35 years or so, and neither PP, ABC, or any of the old media are fooling anywhere near as many of us as they were once able to do.
Try again PP, but this time at least give it the old college try.
So, Coggins, rather than take the time to type out posts, why not simply provide us links to the relevant right-wing website or blog?
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:20 pm
by _Polygamy Porter
Article of Faith #10
We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal[sic] glory.
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:29 pm
by _Coggins7
So, Coggins, rather than take the time to type out posts, why not simply provide us links to the relevant right-wing website or blog?
Move on, nothing to see here...
PP, You know very, very little about Mormon doctrine, and the more you post, the more you expose yourself for what you really are. That article of faith (man, why do I even put myself through this??) is correct, we do believe that. The entire doctrine, however, isn't contained in that text. We believe that there will be two great world centers of government, one in the old world, and one in the new. This is
core, basic LDS doctrine. You and some others here and at other anti-Mormon websites have years of homework to do before you can with any credibility make critcisms of this Church.
As the old proverbe goes, keep silent and others may think you're a fool. Speak, and they will be certain of it.
Loran
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:31 pm
by _Polygamy Porter
Coggins7 wrote:So, Coggins, rather than take the time to type out posts, why not simply provide us links to the relevant right-wing website or blog?
Move on, nothing to see here...
PP, You know very, very little about Mormon doctrine, and the more you post, the more you expose yourself for what you really are. That article of faith (man, why do I even put myself through this??) is correct, we do believe that. The entire doctrine, however, isn't contained in that text. We believe that there will be two great world centers of government, one in the old world, and one in the new. This is
core, basic LDS doctrine. You and some others here and at other anti-Mormon websites have years of homework to do before you can with any credibility make critcisms of this Church.
As the old proverbe goes, keep silent and others may think you're a fool. Speak, and they will be certain of it.
Loran
Who left the tavern door open?
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:41 pm
by _Coggins7
Ho hum...
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:46 pm
by _Polygamy Porter
Coggins7 wrote:Ho hum...
and a bottle of rum...
You might think that you know more about Mormon doctrine, but you did not always follow it now did you?
Next time I am in town, let me buy the Jack Mormon a drink of Jack Daniels :)