Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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I mean really!!! I do not recall any such level of "The Mormon Factor" when Hatch ran. Oh yea a bit. But not like this.

You know why? People know Romney is a much more viable candidate and actually has a shot at winning. So, all holds are off and religous bigotry will reign free.

We see it here and we will see it more.
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Romney needs Juliann and Pahoran at his side.
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moksha wrote:Romney needs Juliann and Pahoran at his side.


If he wants to make sure he'll LOSE! :)
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Re: Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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Jason Bourne wrote:I mean really!!! I do not recall any such level of "The Mormon Factor" when Hatch ran. Oh yea a bit. But not like this.

You know why? People know Romney is a much more viable candidate and actually has a shot at winning. So, all holds are off and religous bigotry will reign free.

We see it here and we will see it more.


Yes, Orrin wasn't a strong candidate. He ran in 2000, I think. Bush was the front runner that year, with McCain a strong second. I believe Hatch was even behind Keyes in most polls. Nobody cared about Hatch. The Republican nomination is wide open this year, and Romney has a decent shot at getting it. That's why his dirty laundry is being aired. You think it's bad now, imagine if he actually wins the republican nomination. That's when the mud will really start flying. This is nothing compared to what will be said about him in the fall of 2008.
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liz3564 wrote:
moksha wrote:Romney needs Juliann and Pahoran at his side.


If he wants to make sure he'll LOSE! :)


I don't know. THis pahoran dude, from what I have seen, is pretty bright and witty even if he is mean. He kind of reminds me of Carl Rove.
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Re: Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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SatanWasSetUp wrote:Yes, Orrin wasn't a strong candidate. He ran in 2000, I think. Bush was the front runner that year, with McCain a strong second. I believe Hatch was even behind Keyes in most polls. Nobody cared about Hatch. The Republican nomination is wide open this year, and Romney has a decent shot at getting it. That's why his dirty laundry is being aired. You think it's bad now, imagine if he actually wins the republican nomination. That's when the mud will really start flying. This is nothing compared to what will be said about him in the fall of 2008.


Imagine if he does. Imagine if he runs against Hillary. We'll have millions of Republicans foaming at the mouth and voting for Hillary because they'd rather have her as president than a Mormon. Those are twisted, twisted priorities.
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Re: Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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maklelan wrote:
SatanWasSetUp wrote:Yes, Orrin wasn't a strong candidate. He ran in 2000, I think. Bush was the front runner that year, with McCain a strong second. I believe Hatch was even behind Keyes in most polls. Nobody cared about Hatch. The Republican nomination is wide open this year, and Romney has a decent shot at getting it. That's why his dirty laundry is being aired. You think it's bad now, imagine if he actually wins the republican nomination. That's when the mud will really start flying. This is nothing compared to what will be said about him in the fall of 2008.


Imagine if he does. Imagine if he runs against Hillary. We'll have millions of Republicans foaming at the mouth and voting for Hillary because they'd rather have her as president than a Mormon. Those are twisted, twisted priorities.


I imagine that if it really does become a Mitt/Hillary race, there will be a dirty laundry brigade that will be entertaining for all. LOL

My biggest problem with Romney is his flip-flopping on the issues. That was actually focused on more than the whole religion piece, if you watched the whole interview. I think this is going to be the biggest hurdle for Romney to overcome...both with the Republican party, and with the American people as a whole.
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Re: Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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liz3564 wrote:
maklelan wrote:
SatanWasSetUp wrote:Yes, Orrin wasn't a strong candidate. He ran in 2000, I think. Bush was the front runner that year, with McCain a strong second. I believe Hatch was even behind Keyes in most polls. Nobody cared about Hatch. The Republican nomination is wide open this year, and Romney has a decent shot at getting it. That's why his dirty laundry is being aired. You think it's bad now, imagine if he actually wins the republican nomination. That's when the mud will really start flying. This is nothing compared to what will be said about him in the fall of 2008.


Imagine if he does. Imagine if he runs against Hillary. We'll have millions of Republicans foaming at the mouth and voting for Hillary because they'd rather have her as president than a Mormon. Those are twisted, twisted priorities.


I imagine that if it really does become a Mitt/Hillary race, there will be a dirty laundry brigade that will be entertaining for all. LOL

My biggest problem with Romney is his flip-flopping on the issues. That was actually focused on more than the whole religion piece, if you watched the whole interview. I think this is going to be the biggest hurdle for Romney to overcome...both with the Republican party, and with the American people as a whole.


Other then being less soft and gay and abortion issue what has he flipped on?
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Re: Where was all the gnashing of teeth when Hatch Ran?

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Jason Bourne wrote:
liz3564 wrote:
maklelan wrote:
SatanWasSetUp wrote:Yes, Orrin wasn't a strong candidate. He ran in 2000, I think. Bush was the front runner that year, with McCain a strong second. I believe Hatch was even behind Keyes in most polls. Nobody cared about Hatch. The Republican nomination is wide open this year, and Romney has a decent shot at getting it. That's why his dirty laundry is being aired. You think it's bad now, imagine if he actually wins the republican nomination. That's when the mud will really start flying. This is nothing compared to what will be said about him in the fall of 2008.


Imagine if he does. Imagine if he runs against Hillary. We'll have millions of Republicans foaming at the mouth and voting for Hillary because they'd rather have her as president than a Mormon. Those are twisted, twisted priorities.


I imagine that if it really does become a Mitt/Hillary race, there will be a dirty laundry brigade that will be entertaining for all. LOL

My biggest problem with Romney is his flip-flopping on the issues. That was actually focused on more than the whole religion piece, if you watched the whole interview. I think this is going to be the biggest hurdle for Romney to overcome...both with the Republican party, and with the American people as a whole.


Other then being less soft and gay and abortion issue what has he flipped on?


The flip-flopping is not quite as clear as some people make it sound. He said he'd be sensitive to gays, and then he said he'd support a marriage amendment. Hardly flip-flopping. More like clarifying his stance.
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Other then being less soft and gay and abortion issue what has he flipped on?


He's done a complete 180 on both the gay marriage, and the abortion issue, and I think it is going to hurt him on both the conservative and liberal sides of the aisle.

The conservatives are going to question his true loyalty, and why he flipped. The liberals aren't going to like the new direction he's taking. It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

Plus...there are liberal Republicans, like me, who could never bring themselves to get an abortion, but don't think that the government has a right to interfere, either.

And before all of the TBM's on the board have a field day regarding my position on this...line up...you can all kiss my ass now. LOL
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