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Certainly Joseph Smith didn't stumble upon the only Book of Abraham. With these new tombs being unveiled in these latter-days, it can only mean the lord is revealing more of his secrets o mankind. I can't wait for more Book of Breathings to be translated into Books of Abraham/Joseph/Moses/Noah, or whatever.

SatanWasSetUp wrote:http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070221/D8NDP7I80.html

Certainly Joseph Smith didn't stumble upon the only Book of Abraham. With these new tombs being unveiled in these latter-days, it can only mean the lord is revealing more of his secrets o mankind. I can't wait for more Book of Breathings to be translated into Books of Abraham/Joseph/Moses/Noah, or whatever.

Abraham was illiterate, therefore it was impossible for him to scrawl anything remotely legible..

There are at least three other Book of Abrahams besides the one we have. Abraham was not illiterate.

Gazelam wrote:There are at least three other Book of Abrahams besides the one we have. Abraham was not illiterate.

Are they canonized?

SatanWasSetUp wrote:http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070221/D8NDP7I80.html

Certainly Joseph Smith didn't stumble upon the only Book of Abraham. With these new tombs being unveiled in these latter-days, it can only mean the lord is revealing more of his secrets o mankind. I can't wait for more Book of Breathings to be translated into Books of Abraham/Joseph/Moses/Noah, or whatever.

A Book of Abraham, a Book of Abraham! We have a Book of Abraham and have no need of another Book of Abraham!

No, they arent Canonized, but Nibley liked the Slavinic translation and quoted some great things from it.

They brought Joseph Smith the papyrus because nobody could read it (at least, nobody the Saints had any access to), and Joseph Smith was reputed to be a translator. So, he "translated" them. Of course, nowadays, we have scholars of Egyptology who can read these kinds of things, so it would seem kind of redundant to ever bring them to the LDS prophet.

However, the current best Book of Abraham apologetic argument, as far as I've been able to tell, has it that Joseph Smith didn't really "translate" the papyrus anyway (ya think?), but rather, in asking the Lord to help him figure out the papyrus, the Lord took the opportunity to just reveal the Book of Abraham's text to his mind.

When you think about it, Joseph Smith never really needed the papyrus at all. He just needed some reason to approach the Lord and ask, so the Lord could answer him back with the revelation.

Knowing this, we realize that, logically, it doesn't really matter what the "prop" is, it only matters that the Prophet ponder and pray about something, and ask the Lord what it means.

Forget the new Egyptian tombs. Let's just get Gordon B. Hinckley in an office somewhere in the upper level of the Salt Lake Temple, with a pen and paper, and a plate of muffins.

"Oh Lord, I have before me this plate of muffins, which I have been asked to "translate". Is there something you'd like to tell me?"

Sethbag wrote:They brought Joseph Smith the papyrus because nobody could read it (at least, nobody the Saints had any access to), and Joseph Smith was reputed to be a translator. So, he "translated" them. Of course, nowadays, we have scholars of Egyptology who can read these kinds of things, so it would seem kind of redundant to ever bring them to the LDS prophet.

However, the current best Book of Abraham apologetic argument, as far as I've been able to tell, has it that Joseph Smith didn't really "translate" the papyrus anyway (ya think?), but rather, in asking the Lord to help him figure out the papyrus, the Lord took the opportunity to just reveal the Book of Abraham's text to his mind.

When you think about it, Joseph Smith never really needed the papyrus at all. He just needed some reason to approach the Lord and ask, so the Lord could answer him back with the revelation.

Knowing this, we realize that, logically, it doesn't really matter what the "prop" is, it only matters that the Prophet ponder and pray about something, and ask the Lord what it means.

Forget the new Egyptian tombs. Let's just get Gordon B. Hinckley in an office somewhere in the upper level of the Salt Lake Temple, with a pen and paper, and a plate of muffins.

"Oh Lord, I have before me this plate of muffins, which I have been asked to "translate". Is there something you'd like to tell me?"

Good grief. This is the worst attempt I have ever seen to bury how one feels about the un-matching translations.

You will tell yourself anything to remain a member of the cult. Married to nazi TBM? Kids trapped? You would make a great FLDS member.

So no mater what Smith spouted off, it was of god?

by the way, are you related to Gazlam? Lost twin perhaps?

Polygamy Porter wrote:
You will tell yourself anything to remain a member of the cult. Married to nazi TBM? Kids trapped? You would make a great FLDS member.

So no mater what Smith spouted off, it was of god?

by the way, are you related to Gazlam? Lost twin perhaps?

Port, are you nuts? How are you getting any of this from a sarcastic post that has Hinckley praying over muffins?

Sheesh, chill out.

Polygamy Porter wrote:

Sethbag wrote:They brought Joseph Smith the papyrus because nobody could read it (at least, nobody the Saints had any access to), and Joseph Smith was reputed to be a translator. So, he "translated" them. Of course, nowadays, we have scholars of Egyptology who can read these kinds of things, so it would seem kind of redundant to ever bring them to the LDS prophet.

However, the current best Book of Abraham apologetic argument, as far as I've been able to tell, has it that Joseph Smith didn't really "translate" the papyrus anyway (ya think?), but rather, in asking the Lord to help him figure out the papyrus, the Lord took the opportunity to just reveal the Book of Abraham's text to his mind.

When you think about it, Joseph Smith never really needed the papyrus at all. He just needed some reason to approach the Lord and ask, so the Lord could answer him back with the revelation.

Knowing this, we realize that, logically, it doesn't really matter what the "prop" is, it only matters that the Prophet ponder and pray about something, and ask the Lord what it means.

Forget the new Egyptian tombs. Let's just get Gordon B. Hinckley in an office somewhere in the upper level of the Salt Lake Temple, with a pen and paper, and a plate of muffins.

"Oh Lord, I have before me this plate of muffins, which I have been asked to "translate". Is there something you'd like to tell me?"

Good grief. This is the worst attempt I have ever seen to bury how one feels about the un-matching translations.

You will tell yourself anything to remain a member of the cult. Married to nazi TBM? Kids trapped? You would make a great FLDS member.

So no mater what Smith spouted off, it was of god?

by the way, are you related to Gazlam? Lost twin perhaps?

PP, a little reading comprehension would not be amiss. Take a step back and a nice deep breath. Sethbag is one of us. Don't you know sarcasm when you see it?