Daniel C. Peterson's book

[_Bond...James Bond]

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... opic=22594

Hey everybody, Dr. Daniel C. Peterson has got a book coming out called Muhammad: Prophet of God. The preliminary reports suggest it's very good. Although Daniel doesn't think so:

Aw shucks.

This is all quite flattering, but there must be some mistake. I'm reliably informed by experts on the so-called "Recovery" board and in similar venues that I'm a completely unknown incompetent who is regarded internationally as an academic laughingstock and who would never be able to get a job (let alone to keep one) at a real university.

Buck up little trooper. Tomorrow's a brand new day :)

Oh and charity predicted:

I can make a prediction. Other boards, which we will not mention by name, are going to stay strangely silent on the topic of Dr. Peterson. Wonder why?

I guess her BBR is off. Better have some tacos.

Go ahead charity and mention The-Board-That-Must-Not-Be-Named. I won't be silent. Congratulations Daniel!!!

[_Fortigurn]

Congratulations Dan! I hope it receives the reviews it deserves.

[_TAK]

This book was discussed a couple of months ago on the other board.. By Dan's own admission it’s a mainstream treatment that does not address any of the controversial issues surrounding Mohammed’s life.

I guess it’s not surprising that Muslims would like something positive and that is not written by a Muslim. Much how Mormon apologist get excited by something positive written by a non member. As a professor of Eastern Studies I am sure this little kowtow to the Muslims will go a long way for him.

[_guy sajer]

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index.php?showtopic=22594

Hey everybody, Dr. Daniel C. Peterson has got a book coming out called Muhammad: Prophet of God. The preliminary reports suggest it's very good. Although Daniel doesn't think so:

Aw shucks.

This is all quite flattering, but there must be some mistake. I'm reliably informed by experts on the so-called "Recovery" board and in similar venues that I'm a completely unknown incompetent who is regarded internationally as an academic laughingstock and who would never be able to get a job (let alone to keep one) at a real university.

Buck up little trooper. Tomorrow's a brand new day :)

Oh and charity predicted:

I can make a prediction. Other boards, which we will not mention by name, are going to stay strangely silent on the topic of Dr. Peterson. Wonder why?

I guess her BBR is off. Better have some tacos.

Go ahead charity and mention The-Board-That-Must-Not-Be-Named. I won't be silent. Congratulations Daniel!!!

I think we are all big enough to congratulate DCP on his book. I hope for him that it is successful and that it earns him acclaim.

In regards to DCP's dismissive comment on his critics at RfM and elsewhere, let me say that I've seen his CV (or what of it that is available), and I would be surprised if any credible research university would hire him given his complete lack of peer reviewed publications. This does not mean he is not capable, nor that he is not an expert in his subject., nor that this book is not a tour-de-force of scholarly erudition. It does mean, however, that has not been a success by the most important standard by which academics defines success: peer-reviewed publications. This book may give him currency, finally, in the academic market, but in most academic disciplines, books count less than peer-reviewed publications (there are exceptions).

DCP's publication record to date is, to be a fine point on it, abysmal, particularly for someone with his years in academics. By way of context, I published more peer-reviewed articles in my first year as an academic than he has in 30 some odd years.

So, congratulations are due, but DCP's "aw shucks" false modesty come across as not so veiled, and unsuccessful, attempt to cover up his dismal publication record.

[_Alter Idem]

Envy is a sure sign of another's success.

I think it's great he's got his book published and if it's geared to a mainstream audience it will get more readers. Good for him!

[_Mister Scratch]

Many, many congratulations to Prof. P. on this one! I am happy for him. Completing a project such as this always lends a bit of lightness to one's step. (There you go, Hawkmoon. P.s., your dossier is coming soon!)

A couple of further thoughts:
---I note, with eyebrow raised, that it was Bill Hamblin who opened the thread. Ever since FAIR made the transition to MAD, I have only seen Hamblin post twice, both times in order to praise DCP.
---I have to wonder a tiny bit why Prof. Peterson even bothers with his work on Islam. It seems clear to me that he real metier is LDS Apologetics. I wonder if there will come a time when we all regard him as being the greatest LDS apologist ever, greater even than Nibley.... My .02 is that DCP has alread surpassed Nibley! ; )
---I see that smac is fooling around, and that somebody on RfM is using my name. How interesting! I actually have a registered account at RfM, so if you want to know if it is genuinely yours truly posting over there, you had better look for a "Mister Scratch" without an "unregistered" after the name. Gee, doesn't smac know that this makes DCP look truly dishonest (and Nomos/Dadof7, for that matter)?

[_Runtu]

Many, many congratulations to Prof. P. on this one! I am happy for him. Completing a project such as this always lends a bit of lightness to one's step. (There you go, Hawkmoon. P.s., your dossier is coming soon!)

A couple of further thoughts:
---I note, with eyebrow raised, that it was Bill Hamblin who opened the thread. Ever since FAIR made the transition to MAD, I have only seen Hamblin post twice, both times in order to praise DCP.
---I have to wonder a tiny bit why Prof. Peterson even bothers with his work on Islam. It seems clear to me that he real metier is LDS Apologetics. I wonder if there will come a time when we all regard him as being the greatest LDS apologist ever, greater even than Nibley.... My .02 is that DCP has alread surpassed Nibley! ; )
---I see that smac is fooling around, and that somebody on RfM is using my name. How interesting! I actually have a registered account at RfM, so if you want to know if it is genuinely yours truly posting over there, you had better look for a "Mister Scratch" without an "unregistered" after the name. Gee, doesn't smac know that this makes DCP look truly dishonest (and Nomos/Dadof7, for that matter)?

A few questions:

Is there a reason to believe it's smac impersonating you? (I read that post, and it didn't sound like you at all.)

Was Dadof7 the guy who banned you? I must admit to being totally puzzled by him. I had a lot of pleasant exchanges with him when I was a believer, but when I "switched teams," he was amazingly rude and spiteful.

Is it at all a compliment to be considered greater than Nibley?

Edit: And to address the topic, I offer my sincere congratulations to Dr. Peterson. Writing a book is a tremendously difficult project, and I am happy for him that it turned out successfully.

[_Mister Scratch]

Many, many congratulations to Prof. P. on this one! I am happy for him. Completing a project such as this always lends a bit of lightness to one's step. (There you go, Hawkmoon. P.s., your dossier is coming soon!)

A couple of further thoughts:
---I note, with eyebrow raised, that it was Bill Hamblin who opened the thread. Ever since FAIR made the transition to MAD, I have only seen Hamblin post twice, both times in order to praise DCP.
---I have to wonder a tiny bit why Prof. Peterson even bothers with his work on Islam. It seems clear to me that he real metier is LDS Apologetics. I wonder if there will come a time when we all regard him as being the greatest LDS apologist ever, greater even than Nibley.... My .02 is that DCP has alread surpassed Nibley! ; )
---I see that smac is fooling around, and that somebody on RfM is using my name. How interesting! I actually have a registered account at RfM, so if you want to know if it is genuinely yours truly posting over there, you had better look for a "Mister Scratch" without an "unregistered" after the name. Gee, doesn't smac know that this makes DCP look truly dishonest (and Nomos/Dadof7, for that matter)?

A few questions:

Is there a reason to believe it's smac impersonating you? (I read that post, and it didn't sound like you at all.)

Yes. Smac was one of the biggest whiners once my blog came on line. There is also fairly good reason to suspect him of being Mr. Itchy. Also, why is it that he is the one quoting the post?

Was Dadof7 the guy who banned you? I must admit to being totally puzzled by him. I had a lot of pleasant exchanges with him when I was a believer, but when I "switched teams," he was amazingly rude and spiteful.

Yep. Dadof7 (a.k.a. "Nomos") followed me around during my tenure on the ironically named FAIRboard. He was the one who put me on the queue, and, after DCP pulled a stunt similar to what smac is (apparently) doing, I was banned by Dadof7/Nomos/DaddyMO. I agree with you that he is rather two-faced.

Is it at all a compliment to be considered greater than Nibley?

Doubtless it is in certain circles.

Edit: And to address the topic, I offer my sincere congratulations to Dr. Peterson. Writing a book is a tremendously difficult project, and I am happy for him that it turned out successfully.

Agreed.

[_Runtu]

Yes. Smac was one of the biggest whiners once my blog came on line. There is also fairly good reason to suspect him of being Mr. Itchy. Also, why is it that he is the one quoting the post?

Oh, I didn't see it on MADB (I really don't go there much anymore). I saw it on RfM. So, smac is the one who brought it to people's attention on MADB?

Yep. Dadof7 (a.k.a. "Nomos") followed me around during my tenure on the ironically named FAIRboard. He was the one who put me on the queue, and, after DCP pulled a stunt similar to what smac is (apparently) doing, I was banned by Dadof7/Nomos/DaddyMO. I agree with you that he is rather two-faced.

I really thought he was a nice guy.

Doubtless it is in certain circles.

I used to see Nibley a lot when I lived south of campus (he lived down the street from us). At that time, I was in such awe of his intellect that I just said hello as I passed. I don't recall his ever acknowledging me, but I could be wrong.

[_moksha]

Let's all hope that Dr. Daniel Peterson will be the recipient of this years prestigious Mustafa Award presented next year at the Towers Rotana Hotel in Dubai, for this marvelous book.

Congratulations Dr. Peterson.