Alvin, Beaver, why me...right here

Post by **_Jersey Girl** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:44 pm

Hello why me,

I was just looking at a MAD thread and saw your reply to Juliann. Since I'm unable to reply there, I'm doing it here.

juliann @ Mar 17 2007, 01:14 PM

And yet I see your screenname over there and you say nothing about the stomach churning obscenity they use....but talking about it is unbecoming. wacko.gif I will be forever fascinated by this compartmentalization. How does one have a set of standards that they are vocal about in one place and have a completely different set of standards in another place and situation? It is something I have not found a satisfactory answer to and probably never will.

why me

I have noticed this also of many of the posters over there who used to post here and others that still do. There seems to be split personalities. And I am not sure what causes this dual nature. I am a person that believes in being true to oneself. Show respect regardless of the board. Why go through a Dr. Jeckal and Mr. Hyde personae?

The heart can be a strange inner emotion that perhaps can have many voices.

why me,

Why is it so hard for juliann, yourself and others to understand that when posters post on various boards, they typically abide by the rules on that particular board? This isn't rocket science, folks.

It has nothing at all to do with the psychology of a person. For example, on ZLMB or FAIR/MAD, I wouldn't use swear words. Why? Because it's not allowed. That has nothing whatsoever to do with having a dual nature or compartmentalization or anything such thing. It has to do with the boundaries set forth on each board.

Of course it might be more comfortable to view people as mentally unfit rather than note the obvious, which happens to be the rules of each board.

Jersey Girl

Post by **_Mister Scratch** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:53 pm

What TBMs such as juliann and why me so conveniently overlook is the fact that there a plenty of posters on MAD (apparently hardcore TBMs to boot) who engage in vulgarity themselves. In fact, if they would read the dossier for MorningStar, they will readily see that posters have no problem discussing "bums" and "penises." Also, they have immortalized urroner's self applied label of "piss boy." Is this not vulgar?

The real reason juliann does not come over here is that she is afraid. It depresses her to get her butt kicked so ferociously, and in fact causes her genuine depression. She probably does not want to shell out the extra money for additional Lexapro, Xanax, and Prozac.

Post by **_moksha** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:58 pm

I imagine Alexander Solzhenitsyn had one set of behaviors for when he was in the former Soviet Union and another set of behaviors for when he was in America. It is fairly easy to imagine why this would be the case: For self-preservation in the first case, and for self-promotion in the second.

If Solzhenitsyn were in Rome, he would probably do as the Romans do: Eat antipasto and pinch women on the butt.

Post by **_Jersey Girl** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:58 pm

Mister Scratch wrote:What TBMs such as juliann and why me so conveniently overlook is the fact that there a plenty of posters on MAD (apparently hardcore TBMs to boot) who engage in vulgarity themselves. In fact, if they would read the dossier for MorningStar, they will readily see that posters have no problem discussing "bums" and "penises." Also, they have immortalized urroner's self applied label of "piss boy." Is this not vulgar?

The real reason juliann does not come over here is that she is afraid. It depresses her to get her butt kicked so ferociously, and in fact causes her genuine depression. She probably does not want to shell out the extra money for additional Lexapro, Xanax, and Prozac.

Well, I dislike your comments about the med's, Scratch but again, this isn't rocket science. Do people not modify their speech in other types of situations? Professional vs casual, for example? Of course they do.

Would Juliann, for example, disclose private emails of a professional nature with her colleagues as she does on the boards?

Would the Z Trolls have done what they did on ZLMB over on FAIR/MAD?

Jersey Girl

Post by **_Mister Scratch** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:08 pm

Jersey Girl wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:What TBMs such as juliann and why me so conveniently overlook is the fact that there a plenty of posters on MAD (apparently hardcore TBMs to boot) who engage in vulgarity themselves. In fact, if they would read the dossier for MorningStar, they will readily see that posters have no problem discussing "bums" and "penises." Also, they have immortalized urroner's self applied label of "piss boy." Is this not vulgar?

The real reason juliann does not come over here is that she is afraid. It depresses her to get her butt kicked so ferociously, and in fact causes her genuine depression. She probably does not want to shell out the extra money for additional Lexapro, Xanax, and Prozac.

Well, I dislike your comments about the med's, Scratch but again, this isn't rocket science. Do people not modify their speech in other types of situations? Professional vs casual, for example? Of course they do.

Would Juliann, for example, disclose private emails of a professional nature with her colleagues as she does on the boards?

Would the Z Trolls have done what they did on ZLMB over on FAIR/MAD?

Jersey Girl

I think you are absolutely right, Jersey Girl. Language is fundamentally contextual, and to claim that people do not adjust based on the given circumstance would be absurd, in my opinion.

Post by **_Jersey Girl** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:31 pm

Scratch,

I was raised up in a land where swearing is an art form and not much bothers me except a couple of sexual references which I don't consider swearing or profanity but sexual slurs. So be it.

Once having lived in the Bible Belt for years, my husband and I were driving back to Jersey and stopped for gas. There was a disagreement with another driver about who had the next turn at getting gas. It takes a certain amount of maneuvering to get gas because back there you can't pump your own. You have to wait for an attendant to go back and forth to the station unless they have a money changing belt and that adds to the time you spend fueling up.

As the driver walked away, he muttered "F you" to which my husband replied "Yeah, F you too!" and we knew we were home. ;-)

Of course people adjust their language to fit the situation. To say otherwise would be ridiculous. I think based on what I read over on MAD there are people who will remain in some kind of dream state stupor and conclude...yeah, those folks are two faced. And still others who have some amount of common sense who understand that the difference in posting styles are due to the rules of each board.

I wonder if why me will suggest that to them? I'll look in there later.

Jersey Girl

Post by **_Mister Scratch** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:53 pm

Jersey Girl wrote:Scratch,

I was raised up in a land where swearing is an art form and not much bothers me except a couple of sexual references which I don't consider swearing or profanity but sexual slurs. So be it.

Once having lived in the Bible Belt for years, my husband and I were driving back to Jersey and stopped for gas. There was a disagreement with another driver about who had the next turn at getting gas. It takes a certain amount of maneuvering to get gas because back there you can't pump your own. You have to wait for an attendant to go back and forth to the station unless they have a money changing belt and that adds to the time you spend fueling up.

As the driver walked away, he muttered "F you" to which my husband replied "Yeah, F you too!" and we knew we were home. ;-)

Of course people adjust their language to fit the situation. To say otherwise would be ridiculous. I think based on what I read over on MAD there are people who will remain in some kind of dream state stupor and conclude...yeah, those folks are two faced. And still others who have some amount of common sense who understand that the difference in posting styles are due to the rules of each board.

I wonder if why me will suggest that to them? I'll look in there later.

Jersey Girl

What I don't understand about certain MADites is this pollyanna-ish, utterly Victorian thing of being "unable" to tolerate profanity. I do not understand why they get so upset/bent out of shape over some of these words. Do they really think that their "souls are being poisoned" or some other thing like that? Do they think that hearing some profanity will drive the Spirit away?

Post by **_Runtu** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:50 pm

Mister Scratch wrote:What I don't understand about certain MADites is this pollyanna-ish, utterly Victorian thing of being "unable" to tolerate profanity. I do not understand why they get so upset/bent out of shape over some of these words. Do they really think that their "souls are being poisoned" or some other thing like that? Do they think that hearing some profanity will drive the Spirit away?

Apparently, juvenile mocking and character assassination are fine, as long as you don't say "s***."

Post by **_harmony** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:52 pm

What I don't understand about certain MADites is this pollyanna-ish, utterly Victorian thing of being "unable" to tolerate profanity. I do not understand why they get so upset/bent out of shape over some of these words. Do they really think that their "souls are being poisoned" or some other thing like that? Do they think that hearing some profanity will drive the Spirit away?

What I want to know is how they manage to avoid it in real life. Are they so isolated, they never come into contact with anyone who swears? How is that possible?

Post by **_Mister Scratch** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:04 am

harmony wrote:
What I don't understand about certain MADites is this pollyanna-ish, utterly Victorian thing of being "unable" to tolerate profanity. I do not understand why they get so upset/bent out of shape over some of these words. Do they really think that their "souls are being poisoned" or some other thing like that? Do they think that hearing some profanity will drive the Spirit away?

What I want to know is how they manage to avoid it in real life. Are they so isolated, they never come into contact with anyone who swears? How is that possible?

Yes, and if they do encounter it, what happens? Since it is "stomach churning," do they begin projectile vomiting? Writhing around on the floor in agony? I find it so sad when TBMs craft caricatures of themselves. Isn't that supposed to be *our* job?