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GBH Puts Foot in Mouth Again
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:31 pm
by _Mister Scratch
In the Oct. 2006 General Conference, some will recall that GBH put his foot in his mouth during the Priesthood Session when he asked the men gathered if they "wanted to marry a women whose education is superior to your own"? It turns out that such a thing shouldn't matter, since, as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator informs us, women are little more than material objects:
Now, we will return to our homes. We urge you who will be driving to do so carefully. Let no accident destroy the spirit of this wonderful occasion.
We hope that you will use the May edition of the Church magazines as a text for your family home evenings, to review that which has been spoken in this conference. What has been said by each of the speakers represents his or her prayerful attempt to impart knowledge that will inspire and cause all who have heard it to stand a little taller and be a little better.
May there be peace and harmony in your homes. Husbands, love and treasure your wives. They are your most precious possessions. Wives, encourage and pray for your husbands. They need all the help they can get.
Yeeouch! Possessions?!? I know that GBH is getting up there in years, but this is rather ridiculous, in my opinion.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:38 pm
by _Jersey Girl
Scratch,
I'd like to point out that this attitude is not unique to Mormonism or the LDS church. How many times do we hear a man refer to "the wife".
You know...the car, the chair, the newspaper, the wife.
Drives me wild!
Jersey Girl
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:00 pm
by _Bond...James Bond
Gordo wrote:May there be peace and harmony in your homes. Husbands, love and treasure your wives. They are your most precious possessions. Wives, encourage and pray for your husbands. They need all the help they can get.
If you think this is bad....check out GBH's first draft of this speech...
Gordo wrote:May there be peace and harmony in your homes. Husbands, love and treasure your wives. They are your most precious chattel, better than any pig or goat, more enjoyable than any easy chair. Wives, encourage and pray for your masters. They appreciate any help you pea brains can provide.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:38 pm
by _moksha
I am pretty sure he meant the most precious thing you have.
He would never publically make any statement regarding the Stepfordizing process - it is a trade secret.
Re: GBH Puts Foot in Mouth Again
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:01 am
by _Jason Bourne
Mister Scratch wrote:In the Oct. 2006 General Conference, some will recall that GBH put his foot in his mouth during the Priesthood Session when he asked the men gathered if they "wanted to marry a women whose education is superior to your own"? It turns out that such a thing shouldn't matter, since, as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator informs us, women are little more than material objects:
Now, we will return to our homes. We urge you who will be driving to do so carefully. Let no accident destroy the spirit of this wonderful occasion.
We hope that you will use the May edition of the Church magazines as a text for your family home evenings, to review that which has been spoken in this conference. What has been said by each of the speakers represents his or her prayerful attempt to impart knowledge that will inspire and cause all who have heard it to stand a little taller and be a little better.
May there be peace and harmony in your homes. Husbands, love and treasure your wives. They are your most precious possessions. Wives, encourage and pray for your husbands. They need all the help they can get.
Yeeouch! Possessions?!? I know that GBH is getting up there in years, but this is rather ridiculous, in my opinion.
You must be bored and really looking for something to pick at. I am sure he meant nothing demeaning by it. Do you refer to your wife as YOUR wife and she HER husband? It is the nature of the language. A wife and a husband do possess each other to a certian extent. If not why are there so many wealthy divorce attorneys.
You often make good and valid points but this one is reaching for something as was your silly standard on the charity issue.
Re: GBH Puts Foot in Mouth Again
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:28 am
by _harmony
Jason Bourne wrote:Mister Scratch wrote:In the Oct. 2006 General Conference, some will recall that GBH put his foot in his mouth during the Priesthood Session when he asked the men gathered if they "wanted to marry a women whose education is superior to your own"? It turns out that such a thing shouldn't matter, since, as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator informs us, women are little more than material objects:
Now, we will return to our homes. We urge you who will be driving to do so carefully. Let no accident destroy the spirit of this wonderful occasion.
We hope that you will use the May edition of the Church magazines as a text for your family home evenings, to review that which has been spoken in this conference. What has been said by each of the speakers represents his or her prayerful attempt to impart knowledge that will inspire and cause all who have heard it to stand a little taller and be a little better.
May there be peace and harmony in your homes. Husbands, love and treasure your wives. They are your most precious possessions. Wives, encourage and pray for your husbands. They need all the help they can get.
Yeeouch! Possessions?!? I know that GBH is getting up there in years, but this is rather ridiculous, in my opinion.
You must be bored and really looking for something to pick at. I am sure he meant nothing demeaning by it. Do you refer to your wife as YOUR wife and she HER husband? It is the nature of the language. A wife and a husband do possess each other to a certian extent. If not why are there so many wealthy divorce attorneys.
Although I object to the "possession" comment on principle, the one that really bugs me is this: "They need all the help they can get." Somehow, that comment just bugs me. It's not just the men in this church that need help. Women need all the help we can get, too.
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:51 am
by _ajax18
What should he have said?
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:11 am
by _Mephitus
"most important companion and compatriot" would have been much more meaningfull and would not have meant anything more than what it was.
Re: GBH Puts Foot in Mouth Again
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:37 pm
by _Mister Scratch
Jason Bourne wrote:Mister Scratch wrote:In the Oct. 2006 General Conference, some will recall that GBH put his foot in his mouth during the Priesthood Session when he asked the men gathered if they "wanted to marry a women whose education is superior to your own"? It turns out that such a thing shouldn't matter, since, as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator informs us, women are little more than material objects:
Now, we will return to our homes. We urge you who will be driving to do so carefully. Let no accident destroy the spirit of this wonderful occasion.
We hope that you will use the May edition of the Church magazines as a text for your family home evenings, to review that which has been spoken in this conference. What has been said by each of the speakers represents his or her prayerful attempt to impart knowledge that will inspire and cause all who have heard it to stand a little taller and be a little better.
May there be peace and harmony in your homes. Husbands, love and treasure your wives. They are your most precious possessions. Wives, encourage and pray for your husbands. They need all the help they can get.
Yeeouch! Possessions?!? I know that GBH is getting up there in years, but this is rather ridiculous, in my opinion.
You must be bored and really looking for something to pick at. I am sure he meant nothing demeaning by it.
Nevertheless, GBH is the Lord's Mouthpiece. Why didn't he pick better words?
Do you refer to your wife as YOUR wife and she HER husband?
There is a difference between saying, "My wife if my partner," vs. "My wife is my possession."
It is the nature of the language.
The English language is fully capable of expressing the sentiment I'm sure GBH was looking for in a much more tactful way.
A wife and a husband do possess each other to a certian extent. If not why are there so many wealthy divorce attorneys.
You often make good and valid points but this one is reaching for something as was your silly standard on the charity issue.
I see nothing wrong with asking that the One True Church on the Earth be held to high standards.
Re: GBH Puts Foot in Mouth Again
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:18 am
by _Yoda
harmony wrote:Jason Bourne wrote:Mister Scratch wrote:In the Oct. 2006 General Conference, some will recall that GBH put his foot in his mouth during the Priesthood Session when he asked the men gathered if they "wanted to marry a women whose education is superior to your own"? It turns out that such a thing shouldn't matter, since, as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator informs us, women are little more than material objects:
Now, we will return to our homes. We urge you who will be driving to do so carefully. Let no accident destroy the spirit of this wonderful occasion.
We hope that you will use the May edition of the Church magazines as a text for your family home evenings, to review that which has been spoken in this conference. What has been said by each of the speakers represents his or her prayerful attempt to impart knowledge that will inspire and cause all who have heard it to stand a little taller and be a little better.
May there be peace and harmony in your homes. Husbands, love and treasure your wives. They are your most precious possessions. Wives, encourage and pray for your husbands. They need all the help they can get.
Yeeouch! Possessions?!? I know that GBH is getting up there in years, but this is rather ridiculous, in my opinion.
You must be bored and really looking for something to pick at. I am sure he meant nothing demeaning by it. Do you refer to your wife as YOUR wife and she HER husband? It is the nature of the language. A wife and a husband do possess each other to a certian extent. If not why are there so many wealthy divorce attorneys.
Although I object to the "possession" comment on principle, the one that really bugs me is this: "They need all the help they can get." Somehow, that comment just bugs me. It's not just the men in this church that need help. Women need all the help we can get, too.
I agree, Harmony.
It's another example of unintentionally placing women on pedestals.
In addressing Scratch's point....I do think this is nit picking a little. President Hinckley is over 90 years old. He's speaking from a different culture. I don't take offense to a 90 year old man making this kind of comment...a 40 year old man, yes...but not a 90 year old. ;)