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Stem Cell Research and medicine vs belief in God

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:26 am
by _asbestosman
I was wondering if people who believe in God might tend to think that since God is in charge, we don't need to worry about curing cancer. When I look at the evidence, it appears that God believers are just as concerned as others for finding cures to various inflictions of mankind. But is this rational? I mean, if God's in charge then why not have Him fix, or not have the problem happen in the first place?

I was thinking along these lines while trying to understand various ways one might look at the stem-cell issue. On the one hand we see people vehemently opposed to it onthe basis that it is mucking about with innocent human life and nothing is worth that. One might well ask why these same people are OK with humans that are incidentally killed as a result of war, inadequate health care, or even in accidents that could be prevented if we were to outlaw all automobiles. Extreme I know, but I'm just thinking along the lines of no benefit worth killing innocent humans (or embryos) as a side-effect.

On the other hand, we have the Bible clearly commanding the slaughter of innocent children with no medical benefits. And this killing of children wasn't even a byproduct of research or war. No, the innocent children were specifically targeted.

But somteimes I also wonder about those who do not believe in God. Why are they so passionate about it too? Many believers feel that if there is no God then you sholdn't worry about life at all. Non-believers demonstrate that they do not feel this way in general. In fact I find the idea of this life being worthless an ironic statement from believers. Do believers not agree that the next life is more important than conditions in this life?

Non-believers--do they fight for stem-cell research much more because they believe that we need to make this life as good as possible since one life is the only chance anyone has to live? Do they in some sense actually (and perhaps ironically) hold life more sacred than those who forbid embrionic stem-cell research as immoral?

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:48 am
by _Fortigurn
Jesus healed people. I'm sure you can do the math.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:52 am
by _asbestosman
Fortigurn wrote:Jesus healed people. I'm sure you can do the math.

If Jesus healed them, we don't have to, or are we supposed to walk on water too?

I agree that it's good to heal people. The question isn't about healing people. My question is more about how people come to their side of the fence on the stem-cell debate. Why does religion tend choose to be against it? What are others so strongly for it?

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:57 am
by _Runtu
asbestosman wrote:
Fortigurn wrote:Jesus healed people. I'm sure you can do the math.

If Jesus healed them, we don't have to, or are we supposed to walk on water too?


I'm still sorting out what I believe in, and I find it interesting that I don't have strong opinions about stem cell research anymore.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:49 am
by _Fortigurn
asbestosman wrote:
Fortigurn wrote:Jesus healed people. I'm sure you can do the math.

If Jesus healed them, we don't have to, or are we supposed to walk on water too?


No, that is not what I was saying. I was saying that it is counter-intuitive to argue that actions intended to promote the physical wellbeing of humans (such as stem-cell research), are against God's will.

Why does religion tend choose to be against it?


Surely you mean 'Why do many religious people choose to be against it'?

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:00 am
by _asbestosman
Fortigurn wrote:
Why does religion tend choose to be against it?


Surely you mean 'Why do many religious people choose to be against it'?

Yes, that is what I mean.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:02 am
by _Fortigurn
I suggest you would have to ask the individuals concerned.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:26 am
by _Jersey Girl
I have to ask a question here. Has anyone here heard of the process of growing stem cells from one's own blood supply?

Jersey Girl

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:31 am
by _Yoda
Jersey Girl wrote:I have to ask a question here. Has anyone here heard of the process of growing stem cells from one's own blood supply?

Jersey Girl


Yes, I have heard of this process. Apparently, this process has been recently used by researchers in the UK to help with treatment of Type 1 Diabetes.

I don't know all of the specifics, though.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:33 am
by _asbestosman
Fortigurn wrote:I suggest you would have to ask the individuals concerned.


I'm also asking those who do not belive in God or who come to a differing conclusion to express their thoughts on human life, tradeoffs on living with people who think differently, and the importance they place on stem-cell research.

What are your thoughts?