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It would appear the PBS flick was orchestrated by LDS INC.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:53 am
by _Polygamy Porter
Think about it.

Their previous 60 year old plan to hide and obfuscate the less savory history started sputtering about five years ago and started serious backfiring just over three years ago. Thanks to the internet.

Is this PBS flick the beginning of what I will dub "The silent reformation of Mormonism"? It sure smells like it.

Look at the absolute fawning, to near groping of Helen Whitney and her PBS show on LDS.org:

Opinions on PBS Programs Broad and Diverse
PBS has produced two thought-provoking programs about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Aspects of the faith covered in the programs were broad and diverse, and the broadcasts are resulting in an equally diverse range of opinions and responses from viewers.

As she has done in similar documentaries, producer Helen Whitney probes at both the center and the edges of Church history, belief, and personal experience. Members, former members, scholars and Church leaders all presented their perspectives. Those interviewed in the program — even though they hold different points of view — were articulate and measured in their comments, giving serious thought and consideration to the topic.

But even four hours and numerous interviews can’t cover everything. No doubt, some Church members will feel essentials were left out (the restoration of priesthood authority and a fuller description of women’s experience in the faith) and non-essentials left in (polygamist Warren Jeffs, for example). In a similar way, the historic practice of plural marriage and the tragedy of Mountain Meadows are far from the whole story of Church history or the experience and faith of members today. (The entire interviews of Church leaders are available on the PBS website at http://www.pbs.org/Mormons/interviews/.)

But addressing these and other topics in a forthright way seems to have allowed viewers less familiar with the Church to see a new and broader dimension of the Church, shorn, perhaps, of one-sided stereotypes and caricatures.

At a time when significant media and public attention is being turned to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and when news media is so often accused of superficiality in its coverage of religion, this serious treatment of a serious subject is a welcome change.
The twelve apostles must be having a friggin circle jerk thinking about how they think that they got one over on the public!

PBS Documentaries Lead to Vigorous Discussion
The four-hour documentary “The Mormons,” produced by Frontline and American Experience and aired on PBS in the United States, is generating substantial discussion, with lively debate on Internet blogs about what it means to be a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

The documentary has led to a 10-fold increase in daily traffic to the Church’s Newsroom Web site. Last night, a Church response was posted in the “Commentary column” on the site calling Helen Whitney’s work “thought-provoking” and “broad and diverse,” yet recognizing that “four hours and numerous interviews can’t cover everything” about the Church.


They know full well that rough seas lie ahead for the near term. But they also know they must begin this quiet reformation now.

They know there will be losses, but eventually in 5-10 years they will see a return on this investment.


I am just glad I got me and my family off this f'cked up carnival ride before it got stuck upside down and the only way out was to jump.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:19 am
by _moksha
Obviously it didn't condemn Mormons sufficiently for your tastes. Surprise, that was not Helen Whitney's intent. She is an award winning producer and director of documentaries, and she was trying to continue her efforts of producing quality work. That would preclude her from doing a hatchet job on the Mormons.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:33 am
by _The Nehor
So you're saying you're against balanced reporting?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:57 am
by _truth dancer
All I know is that if I were at the helm and recognized the problems going on in the LDS church I would...

1. "Commission" an LDS scholar to write a book about Joseph Smith giving just enough of the truth to have it out there, right along with the apologetic spin. You know.... as any PR department would do when there are problems, be the first to admit a touch of the truth, and give the excuses.

2. Have an "independent" source share some information that would get the problematic issues out on the table so no one in the church would have to admit there were problems, (hence no need for any sort of apology) and focus on the good of the church so the difficulties would be overlooked and ignored.

3. Have smart and respectable folks demonstrate how the "issues" are not a problem for them... have them admit the truth but in a way that it just doesn't matter at all. In other words, go with the.... "if these smart folks believe then I should too."

I think this is PR 100.....

Makes you wonder if someone in the church didn't give a hefty donation to PBS? :-)

I thought the program was fine for the most part. in my opinion, PBS did a very concerted job to not offend the church, which is what we see in most of the media.

Good or bad, there was really nothing controversial in the program at all. Most folks know about polygamy and the MMM. The rock in the hat thing has been covered.

Whether the PR dept had its hand in it or not, what is going on is exactly what any good PR company would do.



~dancer~

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:03 pm
by _Blixa
I think I'm much more interested in various commentary on and reaction to the documentary than on the doc itself.

Maybe I'll have time tomorrow to write more about this, but the thing struck me as a solid example of what it tried to be: a conventional, middle-of-the-road documentary with sententious voice-over narration, standard imagery used purely in service to audio explanation, "stirring" music and tit-for-tat representation of "both" sides of the story. Obviously, I have problems with the very kind of thing that it is, but judging it on its own merits it presents exactly what the mainstream understanding of "balance" is. There was plenty for both believers and critics. Did it tip more one way than the other? Maybe a bit more on the "postive" side of the ledger, but it was no puff piece. It also had a few more disturbing things in it than I would have thought, too (notably Dallin Oaks).

I am taken with the criticisms made by TBMs of the thing: does it generally seem that most are upset or disappointed with it? My initial reading around the internet makes it looks like that's the overall "consensus," even taking into account how responses betray a "chapel" or "internet" orientation. How does it seem to you all?

Re: It would appear the PBS flick was orchestrated by LDS IN

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:13 pm
by _harmony
Polygamy Porter wrote:They know there will be losses, ...


My suggestion would be to first lose Sec 132, and then to kick the POGP to the curb.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:42 pm
by _Polygamy Porter
truth dancer wrote:All I know is that if I were at the helm and recognized the problems going on in the LDS church I would...

1. "Commission" an LDS scholar to write a book about Joseph Smith giving just enough of the truth to have it out there, right along with the apologetic spin. You know.... as any PR department would do when there are problems, be the first to admit a touch of the truth, and give the excuses.
Done.
Bushman's "Rough Stone Rolling"
2. Have an "independent" source share some information that would get the problematic issues out on the table so no one in the church would have to admit there were problems, (hence no need for any sort of apology) and focus on the good of the church so the difficulties would be overlooked and ignored.
Done.
PBS: "The Mormons"
3. Have smart and respectable folks demonstrate how the "issues" are not a problem for them... have them admit the truth but in a way that it just doesn't matter at all. In other words, go with the.... "if these smart folks believe then I should too."
Done.
All of the recognizable faces in the PBS flick, along with new introductions like DCP(New to a majority of members).

I think this is PR 100.....

Makes you wonder if someone in the church didn't give a hefty donation to PBS? :-)
Take a look at the list from an RfM post:
“Funding for FRONTLINE and American Experience is provided through the support of PBS viewers. Additional funding for FRONTLINE is provided by The Park Foundation. Additional funding for "The Mormons" is provided by Edward D. Smith, Steven J. and Kalleen Lund, Mr. and Mrs. Blake M. Roney, and others. A complete list is available from PBS.” [See www.pbs.org/Mormons.]

So exactly who are these additional “impartial” donors to the PBS program? A cursory Internet search shows the following:

Mr. and Mrs. Edward D. Smith apparently are/were active Mormons who have given to such causes as “BYU Broadcasting” in the past.

Steven J. and Kalleen Lund apparently established a charitable foundation located in Provo, Utah and in some way is associated with NuSkin Enterprises. One Internet source states that they have given primarily to the Mormon Church and other church-related causes such as FARMS. Note: Edward Smith and Steven Lund both appear to have served contemporaneously as mission presidents in Georgia from 2003 to 2006 and probably know each other from that experience.

Blake M. Roney: Chairman, NuSkin Enterprises.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:44 pm
by _Polygamy Porter
The Nehor wrote:So you're saying you're against balanced reporting?
moksha wrote:Obviously it didn't condemn Mormons sufficiently for your tastes.
No to you both.
Read my post. I am pointing out that, in my opinion, this is the silent reformation of LDS INC.

The following from LDS INC spokesman and church historian Marlin Jensen:
“On balance, very favorably,” Elder Jensen told KUED. “How can you be displeased when you been the subject of a nationwide TV program structuring over four hour for 2 evenings?”

Jensen also said, “An in-depth treatment has been given. In general we are very pleased."
LDS INC is financially prepared to weather a dip in tithes. Again, look at their options. This was the last one.

They were running on bald, nearly flat tires. Staying in the race was too risky. If they had a blow out it would be a huge wreck and would take even longer to recover. While taking a pitstop to change out all four tires will put them behind, it will get them back into the race.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:47 pm
by _truth dancer
My guess was that various wealthy members "sponsored" the program.

No surprise.

~dancer~

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:37 pm
by _Blixa
Well, PP I have to say you gave me food for thought.