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Funny verses in the Book of Mormon

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 3:27 am
by _SatanWasSetUp
On another board a poster mentioned some fishy verses in the Book of Mormon, where the authors start a thought, then correct themselves.

Alma 10:5 Nevertheless, after all this, I never have known much of the ways of the Lord, and his mysteries and marvelous power. I said I never had known much of these things; but behold, I mistake, for I have seen much of his mysteries and his marvelous power; yea, even in the preservation of the lives of this people.

Alma 46:40 And there were some who died with fevers, which at some seasons of the year were very frequent in the land—but not so much so with fevers, because of the excellent qualities of the many plants and roots which God had prepared to remove the cause of diseases, to which men were subject by the nature of the climate—

Alma 49:2 And behold, the city had been rebuilt, and Moroni had stationed an army by the borders of the city, and they had cast up dirt round about to shield them from the arrows and the stones of the Lamanites; for behold, they fought with stones and with arrows.
Alma 49:3 Behold, I said that the city of Ammonihah had been rebuilt. I say unto you, yea, that it was in part rebuilt; and because the Lamanites had destroyed it once because of the iniquity of the people, they supposed that it would again become an easy prey for them.


Here are a few more that sound like the author is making up his mind, or changing his mind as he goes along. It's hard to imagine this much rambling while slowly and painstakingly pounding out your words on gold plates.

Alma 50:32 Now behold, the people who were in the land Bountiful, or rather Moroni, feared that they would hearken to the words of Morianton.

Alma 53:10 And now behold, I have somewhat to say concerning the people of Ammon, who, in the beginning, were Lamanites; but by Ammon and his brethren, or rather by the power and word of God, they had been converted unto the Lord;

Alma 54:5 Behold, Ammoron, I have written unto you somewhat concerning this war which ye have waged against my people, or rather which thy brother hath waged against them

Mosiah 8:17 But a seer can know of things which are past, and also of things which are to come, and by them shall all things be revealed, or, rather, shall secret things be made manifest, and hidden things shall come to light, and things which are not known shall be made known by them, and also things shall be made known by them which otherwise could not be known.


Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:05 am
by _Lucretia MacEvil
Yep, and this is after it was revised and condensed at least once?

Yea, the Book of Mormon is exceedingly wordy and repetitive, even so much so that it repeats itself, and then it says it again. It's kind of like someone talking through his hat.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 10:36 am
by _The Nehor
In some languages those tangents would take one or two characters. The issue is that English is wordy.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 11:46 am
by _Blixa
Hmmmm, strikes me that the issue is the strange, and humorous, contradictions.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:07 pm
by _The Nehor
Blixa wrote:Hmmmm, strikes me that the issue is the strange, and humorous, contradictions.


How hard is to erase things off plates when you make a mistake?

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:21 pm
by _Who Knows
The Nehor wrote:
Blixa wrote:Hmmmm, strikes me that the issue is the strange, and humorous, contradictions.


How hard is to erase things off plates when you make a mistake?


Umm, how hard is it to strike through something, and start over. Is that only a modern day phenomena?

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:26 pm
by _Runtu
Who Knows wrote:Umm, how hard is it to strike through something, and start over. Is that only a modern day phenomena?


Seems logical to me that you'd just strike out stuff that you did incorrectly. The statements quoted above sound more like a verbal telling of a story and feeling unable to go back and make changes because your listeners think you're reading off plates or something.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:27 pm
by _The Nehor
Runtu wrote:
Who Knows wrote:Umm, how hard is it to strike through something, and start over. Is that only a modern day phenomena?


Seems logical to me that you'd just strike out stuff that you did incorrectly. The statements quoted above sound more like a verbal telling of a story and feeling unable to go back and make changes because your listeners think you're reading off plates or something.


Either that or Mormon was a rambler like Paul.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:32 pm
by _Runtu
The Nehor wrote:Either that or Mormon was a rambler like Paul.


Then he wasn't much of an abridger, I guess. ;-)

I don't think this is clear evidence either way of the book's authenticity. Obviously, I believe the evidence is overwhelming that it is not an ancient text, but as my wife points out to me all the time, other people who are much smarter than I am believe just the opposite.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:42 pm
by _Yoda
Maybe Mormon just hadn't had his morning coffee yet.

I don't make much sense either until I've had ample caffeine in my system.

;)