The Nature of Homosexuality: New Thread
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:36 pm
I began a new thread because Roger has taken the issue into new territory and the Spong thread has gotten very long.
I'm really not going to go down the road of biblical revisionism here again, because the embarrasing straw grasping that liberal textual revisionists have had to engage in to make the Bible ideologically correct has been dead and buried for any serious textual critic since the inception of this ideological cleansing of the scriptures to fit modern fashionable political crusades.
I can think of a number of reasons not to accept homosexuality as to claim it should, and they are:
1. Revealed teaching on the matter (theological/philosophical)
2. Psychological
3. Social/Cultural
Coggins7 wrote:In answer to your previous question, which by the way is a good one, re homophobia: I 'm not sure I can answer it to your satisfaction. I think it has become somewhat generic and applied in different contexts by folks who run the gamut from outright hostilility (irrational hatred) who might physically beat them to death, in extreme cases. Others just don't see them as equals and/or deserving of equal rights and opportunities in their 'communities'... Tolerated with varying degrees of acceptance. I think there are fewer in the first group than before. What do you think? Aside from your placard comments, do you really resent "Gay Activism"?
I oppose its ideology as a matter of principle. Activism itself is a constitutional right, so long as it is peaceful and civil.As for my "criteria": Empirical observations and consideration of homosexual persons and the real consequences, IMSCO, of being in that minority group. I have worked with several in numerous LDS callings as 'coverts'. I saw them accoladed for fine-service. And later excomunicated as unfit to serve. This may not effect you as it does me. So be it. I have also associated with others in uncountable occasions. Real fine folks.
Your subjective impressions aside, There is very little in the "Gay" lifestyle and subculture, except for a very tiny minority of relationships within it, that does not indicate that the lifestyle itself is, at its core, pathological and a generator of ever more supporting pathologies. The empirical and statistical evidence is clear on that score. If those real fine folks were engaging in gross sexual immorality (homosexual behavior), and would not repent and make every attempt to live the Lord's laws regarding sexual relationships, then excommunication would yes, be the likely result. Unfortunate.As I consider what 'your-side', if that's an acceptable term--I hope it is for this discussionn--presents as their views, I find nothing to substantially validate their position. Aside from their misinterpretating scripture, there is no fundamental reason to not accept the reality of homsexuality as being "God" granted as you and me are what we physically are, heterosexual.
I'm really not going to go down the road of biblical revisionism here again, because the embarrasing straw grasping that liberal textual revisionists have had to engage in to make the Bible ideologically correct has been dead and buried for any serious textual critic since the inception of this ideological cleansing of the scriptures to fit modern fashionable political crusades.
I can think of a number of reasons not to accept homosexuality as to claim it should, and they are:
1. Revealed teaching on the matter (theological/philosophical)
2. Psychological
3. Social/Cultural