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Hey Maklelan: The Fallacy of Possible Proof
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:20 pm
by _The Dude
Maklelan-
Per our discussion the other day, do you agree that this quote from Bond... James Bond's signature line contains the fallacy of possible proof (or fallacy of future evidence, if the word "proof" is disturbing)?
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
...i remember you said you'd never seen this argument from a Mormon.
Re: Hey Maklelan: The Fallacy of Possible Proof
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:23 pm
by _Runtu
The Dude wrote:Maklelan-
Per our discussion the other day, do you agree that this quote from Bond... James Bond's signature line contains the fallacy of possible proof (or fallacy of future evidence, if the word "proof" is disturbing)?
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
...I remember you said you'd never seen this argument from a Mormon.
I've heard that fallacy many times over the years since a.r.m. But this quote is the one that leapt to mind when I read The Dude's post the other day.
Re: Hey Maklelan: The Fallacy of Possible Proof
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:25 pm
by _Mercury
The Dude wrote:Maklelan-
Per our discussion the other day, do you agree that this quote from Bond... James Bond's signature line contains the fallacy of possible proof (or fallacy of future evidence, if the word "proof" is disturbing)?
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
...I remember you said you'd never seen this argument from a Mormon.
Mac really has seen it before but in order to fully process it one must not have mental blocks in place. Mac unfortunately views the world through his rose colored glasses of Mormonism.
Re: Hey Maklelan: The Fallacy of Possible Proof
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:26 pm
by _Runtu
Mercury wrote:Mac really has seen it before but in order to fully process it one must not have mental blocks in place. Mac unfortunately views the world through his rose colored glasses of Mormonism.
That wasn't necessary, was it?
Re: Hey Maklelan: The Fallacy of Possible Proof
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:27 pm
by _Who Knows
The Dude wrote:Maklelan...
I think he only hangs in the celestial forum, by the way.
Re: Hey Maklelan: The Fallacy of Possible Proof
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:31 pm
by _Mercury
Runtu wrote:Mercury wrote:The Dude wrote:Maklelan-
Per our discussion the other day, do you agree that this quote from Bond... James Bond's signature line contains the fallacy of possible proof (or fallacy of future evidence, if the word "proof" is disturbing)?
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
...I remember you said you'd never seen this argument from a Mormon.
Mac really has seen it before but in order to fully process it one must not have mental blocks in place. Mac unfortunately views the world through his rose colored glasses of Mormonism.
That wasn't necessary, was it?
Neccesary? yes. Obvious? maybee.
Mac, like most TBM's does not get the states of ludicrous absurdity his beliefs are held in. To Mac, WE are the irrational. that's all I was saying.
Its like arguing with the retarded when you approach them. The same song and dance shell game is played and they come away with a strengthened smugness, the exmo comes away frustrated at why the Mormon can't see the forest through the trees.
Re: Hey Maklelan: The Fallacy of Possible Proof
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:34 pm
by _Runtu
Mercury wrote:Neccesary? yes. Obvious? maybee.
Mac, like most TBM's does not get the states of ludicrous absurdity his beliefs are held in. To Mac, WE are the irrational. that's all I was saying.
Its like arguing with the retarded when you approach them. The same song and dance shell game is played and they come away with a strengthened smugness, the exmo comes away frustrated at why the Mormon can't see the forest through the trees.
Sorry for being "board nanny" again. I guess I wish we had better representation from the LDS side here. Makes for more interesting conversation. But it won't happen if we keep driving them off.
Re: Hey Maklelan: The Fallacy of Possible Proof
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:42 pm
by _Mercury
Runtu wrote:Mercury wrote:Neccesary? yes. Obvious? maybee.
Mac, like most TBM's does not get the states of ludicrous absurdity his beliefs are held in. To Mac, WE are the irrational. that's all I was saying.
Its like arguing with the retarded when you approach them. The same song and dance shell game is played and they come away with a strengthened smugness, the exmo comes away frustrated at why the Mormon can't see the forest through the trees.
Sorry for being "board nanny" again. I guess I wish we had better representation from the LDS side here. Makes for more interesting conversation. But it won't happen if we keep driving them off.
Nehor has been "reprezentin" pretty well. Maybee we should clone him.
Re: Hey Maklelan: The Fallacy of Possible Proof
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:44 pm
by _Runtu
Mercury wrote:Nehor has been "reprezentin" pretty well. Maybee we should clone him.
That's true. I really like The Nehor, in case anyone couldn't see that.
Re: Hey Maklelan: The Fallacy of Possible Proof
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:54 pm
by _Some Schmo
Runtu wrote: That's true. I really like The Nehor, in case anyone couldn't see that.
Me too. Nehor is a very likeable guy.
I'm really enjoying mentalgymnist's posts too. I don't agree with him on many points, but I enjoy his posts. Sometimes when I read him, I get the feeling he's really an exmo cleverly playing the part of an "enlightened and open-minded Mormon." Much of what he says seems to support the critics' view more than Mormons. If that is the case, then my hat goes off to the genius of his posts.