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Flash Gordo is at it again, brandishing numbers to keep the deceived deluded.

"It is reliably estimated that a million missionaries have served since the organization of the Church.”

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,680193878,00.html

So do stake/ward missionaries count?

Kids that come home early? How early? Out only for a day? An hour?

Couple missionaries counted as one or two? What if either one served when they were younger, do they get counted twice as a missionary?

Non proselyting missions?

Elders quorum members going on splits with the mishies?

Hinckley the original spin doc for LDS Inc, has no shame.

Little known fact about this supposed first missionary, Samuel Smith, Joe's younger brother. Something to spring upon the unwitting 19 year old fools walking past the new erected statue of him at the Provo MTC..

He was vehemently opposed to Joe's polyg, which put him at odds with Brigham and his supporters of polygamy. Emma and the other opposition to polygamy wanted Samuel to take the reins of the church after Joe was killed.

This did not happen, because Samuel was POISONED before he could stand toe to toe with Briggie. Much speculation has been made that Young ordered the poisoning to keep as many of the members with him.

http://www.i4m.com/think/leaders/brigham_murder.htm

Are you saying he's wrong about their being a million? You presented no evidence for that.

Polygamy Porter wrote:So do stake/ward missionaries count?

Kids that come home early? How early? Out only for a day? An hour?

Couple missionaries counted as one or two? What if either one served when they were younger, do they get counted twice as a missionary?

Non proselyting missions?

Elders quorum members going on splits with the mishies?

Those are all VERY good questions that I'd like to see addressed by somebody "in the know."

The Nehor wrote:Are you saying he's wrong about their being a million? You presented no evidence for that.

Boy, its a real slow night for you isn't it?

Just because you have been duped into believing that Flash Gordo is a twoo prawfit of god, then you WILL NOT question any of his press releases. You are not allowed to do so. Elder Dallin Oaks said so on PBS.

On occasions in the past, Hinckley has clearly demonstrated that he loves to stretch the statistics into a faith promoting flag which he then waves in the faces of the membership.

Do you remember his conference talk afew years back when he said the church membership was over 11 MILLION STRONG? What does his statement mean to you? That there were 11 million active members?

So when he stand up in Provo in front of a statue of the man who was killed for opposing polygamy and uses statistician speak like "reliably estimated", for me, someone able to examine him critically and objectively, it throws up a red flag.

All I am asking for is for him to do is simply qualify this count. Again, I fully understand why you would not even question ANY statement by him.

Dr. Shades wrote:

Polygamy Porter wrote:So do stake/ward missionaries count?

Kids that come home early? How early? Out only for a day? An hour?

Couple missionaries counted as one or two? What if either one served when they were younger, do they get counted twice as a missionary?

Non proselyting missions?

Elders quorum members going on splits with the mishies?

Those are all VERY good questions that I'd like to see addressed by somebody "in the know."

Thanx Doc.

However, we all know that is impossible.

Additionally, we cannot get any member to even lightly discuss any of those qualifying questions because their mind will not go there. Blind trust.

Flash Gordo is at it again, brandishing numbers to keep the deceived deluded.

"It is reliably estimated that a million missionaries have served since the organization of the Church.”

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,680193878,00.html

I don't know PP. 50,000 or more churning over every two years...seems like ti would be easy to hit a million or more missionaries.

Hinckley the original spin doc for LDS Inc, has no shame.

Funny coming from you who shamelessly makes issues when none exist...like this thread.

Little known fact about this supposed first missionary, Samuel Smith, Joe's younger brother. Something to spring upon the unwitting 19 year old fools walking past the new erected statue of him at the Provo MTC..

He was vehemently opposed to Joe's polyg, which put him at odds with Brigham and his supporters of polygamy. Emma and the other opposition to polygamy wanted Samuel to take the reins of the church after Joe was killed.

This did not happen, because Samuel was POISONED before he could stand toe to toe with Briggie. Much speculation has been made that Young ordered the poisoning to keep as many of the members with him.

I am not sure what this has to do with your thread but at least you not that this is speculation only.

So when he stand up in Provo in front of a statue of the man who was killed for opposing polygamy and uses statistician speak like "reliably estimated", for me, someone able to examine him critically and objectively, it throws up a red flag.

Again, you think and widely speculate that he was killed for opposint polygamy.

But again, do the math. Over the past 30 years it would have been easy to hit a million missionaries.

However, we all know that is impossible.

Additionally, we cannot get any member to even lightly discuss any of those qualifying questions because their mind will not go there. Blind trust.

No it is not blind trust. It is whether there is an issue worth questioning or not. This is not. The sheer numbers of FT missionaries over the past 30 years should make a million easy to hit.

Agreed Jason. But that makes this announcement seem odd to me. I mean, its not hard to beleive that such a number has been reached, even before now. It's kind of obvious, in fact. So why the announcement hoopla?

Dr. Shades wrote:

Polygamy Porter wrote:So do stake/ward missionaries count?

Kids that come home early? How early? Out only for a day? An hour?

Couple missionaries counted as one or two? What if either one served when they were younger, do they get counted twice as a missionary?

Non proselyting missions?

Elders quorum members going on splits with the mishies?

Those are all VERY good questions that I'd like to see addressed by somebody "in the know."

When I get home (if I don't have better things to do), I'll crunch the numbers of my Almanac to see what tally I get... although it only goes up to 2005.