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On another thread, GIMR wrote:

Why is it then, that outside of the church, I never had problems dating whomever I wished? I never saw dating outside my race as an issue, because I had started my dating sojourn doing that. My family used to tease me about it relentlessly, saying I didn't like black men...but I just didn't like the types they brought around me. I've never been limited in the men I dated before the LDS church. It never occurred to me in the beginning that there would be a problem dating a white Mormon man. And now, outside the church, the impediment of race doesn't exist once again...as it should be.

So what the heck is going on with us Mormon men? Is this instance of not dating across the racial divide part of an unacknowledged racist tendency or is it from not freeing ourselves from the superstitions involved with the past racial purity Priesthood prohibition?

Also, does this in anyway tie in with the licked cupcake mentality that Kimberly Ann has talked about?

Moksha: So what the heck is going on with us Mormon men? Is this instance of not dating across the racial divide part of an unacknowledged racist tendency or is it from not freeing ourselves from the superstitions involved with the past racial purity Priesthood prohibition?

Also, does this in anyway tie in with the licked cupcake mentality that Kimberly Ann has talked about?

My little rotund modest penguin, I think you should lay off the cupcakes for a while. I fear you will soon outgrow your fig leaf.

Also, may I say that you are the exemplar of racial harmony, marrying black and white perfectly with just a splash of green for accent and decency?

Seriously, the Mormon church has for years lagged behind the rest of society in areas of social justice and equality and is an organization ran by stodgy old white men. Is there any doubt that, combined with canonized racist doctrine, would result in dating problems for blacks in the church? Unacknowledged racist tendencies exist everywhere, not just among Mormons, but Mormons have canonized racist tendencies and decidedly un-progressive geezers at the helm.

KA

Were I single I would date anyone I wanted and not care about race. If they had the qualities I looked for who cares.

One of my daughters is dating and may marry a guy who is from Brazil and has lot's of mixed race. He looks latino, but also has african heritage and so what? If she loves him and he treats her well what do I care? I don't. Just want her to find a good man that she loves and will be good to her.

Jason Bourne wrote:Were I single I would date anyone I wanted and not care about race. If they had the qualities I looked for who cares.

One of my daughters is dating and may marry a guy who is from Brazil and has lot's of mixed race. He looks latino, but also has african heritage and so what? If she loves him and he treats her well what do I care? I don't. Just want her to find a good man that she loves and will be good to her.

I'm quite impressed with this statement and my hat is off. Respect.

Perhaps it is a generational thing, but I don't know.

When I was living in D.C. just a few years ago, I was single and desperately (well, not desperately, exactly) wanted to hook up with black women, and never could. I had some black friends, but couldn't get a woman interested in me. I am not sure why, but....

This does remind me of a couple past issues in my family.

My brother was dating a Japanese woman in SLC. My mother told me during this time that she didn't want my brother to marry her (they were quite serious) because she didn't want grandchildren with funny eyes. Well, he didn't end up marrying her.

However, I did end up, during my 10 years in Japan, marrying a Japanese woman and together having a son. Yes, he has those "funny" eyes. When, I asked my mother how she felt about all this, I also brought up her comment to me about my brother.

She denied she ever said it.

And my parents did do their best to accept that situation. I do give them credit. They didn't like it, but have handled it well.

Anyway, just rambling here. Again, much respect to the above poster.

KimberlyAnn wrote: My little rotund modest penguin, I think you should lay off the cupcakes for a while. I fear you will soon outgrow your fig leaf.
KA

How right you are Kimberly Ann, it would cause unnecessary blushing if my figleaf popped. Speaking of unnecessary, it would seem there is no reason why some LDS men should be carrying these racial attitudes around in the 21st Century. I think the only way we can ever begin to remedy such a problem is by discussing it. Racism in the past was something that happened, but it need not be continued.