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Seems to me now that since the FARMS proclaimed "well known and respected" BYU archaeologist John Clark came out with the BYU article in may of 2004: "that only archaeology will prove the Book of Mormon correct" it has been three years. So what has happened since????

I had tried to get the ever "self impressed" BYU Prof. Dan Peterson to demonstrate "who" this Peterson claimed "well respected" Mormon archaeologist to name had ever been convinced of his work in "Book of Mormon historicity". Other than I think, John Sorenson or Bill Hamblin, I had yet to recieve a non-mormon scholar that anyone, including Clark, had ever persuaded any least respected academic institution about this incredible 'history" claim that we find in the Book of Mormon.

As he now seems to be posting here, I was wondering if Mr. Peteson would care to elaborate after three years of passage?? Of course, I would respect his reservation in a non-protected environment.

But the question remains: "Who has Clark, Sorenson, or any of the work that FARMS has published convinced in the area of Book of Mormon historicity? Can we find any of the peoples, places, cultures or locations taught in the Book of Mormon discussed in any academic history or geography text anywhere??? How bout BYU or anywhere in Provo????

Is this still the one and only 1000 year history claim on this continent that remains COMPLETELY ignored by the entire academic community (outside of Provo?)???

Joey wrote:Seems to me now that since the FARMS proclaimed "well known and respected" BYU archaeologist John Clark came out with the BYU article in may of 2004: "that only archaeology will prove the Book of Mormon correct" it has been three years. So what has happened since????

I had tried to get the ever "self impressed" BYU Prof. Dan Peterson to demonstrate "who" this Peterson claimed "well respected" Mormon archaeologist to name had ever been convinced of his work in "Book of Mormon historicity". Other than I think, John Sorenson or Bill Hamblin, I had yet to recieve a non-mormon scholar that anyone, including Clark, had ever persuaded any least respected academic institution about this incredible 'history" claim that we find in the Book of Mormon.

As he now seems to be posting here, I was wondering if Mr. Peteson would care to elaborate after three years of passage?? Of course, I would respect his reservation in a non-protected environment.

But the question remains: "Who has Clark, Sorenson, or any of the work that FARMS has published convinced in the area of Book of Mormon historicity? Can we find any of the peoples, places, cultures or locations taught in the Book of Mormon discussed in any academic history or geography text anywhere??? How bout BYU or anywhere in Provo????

Is this still the one and only 1000 year history claim on this continent that remains COMPLETELY ignored by the entire academic community (outside of Provo?)???

Two things, one quite petty:

1. It's "Dr." Peterson. He's earned it.

2. I'm not sure the entire academic community, even in Provo, agrees on much of anything, let alone on what to ignore and what to pay attention to.

harmony wrote:
1. It's "Dr." Peterson. He's earned it.

2. I'm not sure the entire academic community, even in Provo, agrees on much of anything, let alone on what to ignore and what to pay attention to.

1. I think you should have to renew your doctorate, kind of like technical certifications.

2. Well, I can guarantee that outside of LDS higher education there is no one teaching a Book of Mormon centric history of the Americas, at least as truth.[/quote]

Mercury wrote:

harmony wrote:
1. It's "Dr." Peterson. He's earned it.

2. I'm not sure the entire academic community, even in Provo, agrees on much of anything, let alone on what to ignore and what to pay attention to.

1. I think you should have to renew your doctorate, kind of like technical certifications.

I'm sure once is enough.

2. Well, I can guarantee that outside of LDS higher education there is no one teaching a Book of Mormon centric history of the Americas.

I'm not sure they're teaching a Mormon centric History of the Americas in Provo, either, Mercury. I doubt you get that anywhere outside of religion classes, even in Provo.

harmony wrote:
I'm not sure they're teaching a Mormon centric History of the Americas in Provo, either, Mercury. I doubt you get that anywhere outside of religion classes, even in Provo.

That is what I was referring to. But it IS in institutes across the US.

By the way, this is a chance to talk about my favorite charity, adopt a starving CES "professor". You too can help these poor souls.

Did John Clark give a timetable for when it would be proven?

Mercury wrote:

harmony wrote:
I'm not sure they're teaching a Mormon centric History of the Americas in Provo, either, Mercury. I doubt you get that anywhere outside of religion classes, even in Provo.

That is what I was referring to. But it IS in institutes across the US.

Those are religion classes, Mercury, not history.

I know it's hard to not ding BYU at every turn, but even they don't teach Book of Mormon as history.

By the way, this is a chance to talk about my favorite charity, adopt a starving CES "professor". You too can help these poor souls.

One of my favorite people in the whole world is a BYU professor, and he does well enough. His family isn't starving anyway.

harmony wrote:One of my favorite people in the whole world is a BYU professor, and he does well enough. His family isn't starving anyway.

CES, not BYU.

Mercury wrote:

harmony wrote:One of my favorite people in the whole world is a BYU professor, and he does well enough. His family isn't starving anyway.

CES, not BYU.

In my opinion the second-smartest man I've ever known was a CES Teacher.

Mercury wrote:

harmony wrote:One of my favorite people in the whole world is a BYU professor, and he does well enough. His family isn't starving anyway.

CES, not BYU.

You are referring to Seminary teachers? Why would they be starving? The ones here are not destitute by any measure.