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The Quiet Revolution.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:09 pm
by _Ray A
For those interested:
Description :
An investigation into the global interfaith movement and companion volume to an important ABC TV documentary
Intolerance of different religions, miscommunication, and bigotry. It doesn't have to be this way. A global revolution is emerging - interfaith. In an increasingly politically and religiously fragmented world, a number of adherents of different faiths have realised the necessity of global interfaith connection and communication.Quiet Revolution investigates this important growing phenomenon.
Over the last fifteen years or so there has been a worldwide mushrooming of organisations to promote international interfaith dialogue and understanding. Quiet Revolution introduces the basis for this developing interfaith movement - the desire for communication and understanding between different faiths, from Christian to Muslim to Buddhist and beyond. Travelling from the most multi-religious society in the world - and the home of many interfaith communities - New York, the ABC's Peter Kirkwood investigates this global movement and the communities and individuals that are driving its growth.
Quiet Revolution is being written concurrently with the filming and production of an important three-part ABC Television documentary series of the same name to be screened as the book is being published.
About the Author :
Peter Kirkwood is a long-time producer on ABC Television's award-winning program Compass, and the author of Tomorrow's Islam (2005).
http://www.allenandunwin.com/Bookseller ... 0733320026
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:05 pm
by _Runtu
I think this is a great idea. Maybe we can start with trying to help improve interfaith relations between Mormons and ex-Mormons. What do you say?
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:17 pm
by _Ray A
Runtu wrote:I think this is a great idea. Maybe we can start with trying to help improve interfaith relations between Mormons and ex-Mormons. What do you say?
It's about
interfaith relations, in case you missed it. Respect, and dialogue, not sarcasm and ridicule.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:18 pm
by _Runtu
Ray A wrote:Runtu wrote:I think this is a great idea. Maybe we can start with trying to help improve interfaith relations between Mormons and ex-Mormons. What do you say?
It's about
interfaith relations, in case you missed it. Respect, and dialogue, not sarcasm and ridicule.
So, in other words, you're not interested in respect and dialogue with ex-Mormons? :(
For what it's worth, I was being serious.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:27 pm
by _Ray A
Runtu wrote:So, in other words, you're not interested in respect and dialogue with ex-Mormons? :(
For what it's worth, I was being serious.
I am, and in fact have a long-time correspondence with an inactive Mormon who might as well be ex-Mormon. He formerly posted on RFM, which was where we met, but he got frustrated with the atmosphere and stopped posting. Such exmos I have no problem communicating with. When anger or sarcasm exists and the person needs to "vent", there cannot be much dialogue. There needs to be a certain degree of
respect for one's former religion for profitable dialogue to occur.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:28 pm
by _Runtu
Ray A wrote:Runtu wrote:So, in other words, you're not interested in respect and dialogue with ex-Mormons? :(
For what it's worth, I was being serious.
I am, and in fact have a long-time correspondence with an inactive Mormon who might as well be ex-Mormon. He formerly posted on RFM, which was where we met, but he got frustrated with the atmosphere and stopped posting. Such exmos I have no problem communicating with. When anger or sarcasm exists and the person needs to "vent", there cannot be much dialogue. There needs to be a certain degree of
respect for one's former religion for profitable dialogue to occur.
I think you'll find a lot of us aren't consumed by anger or sarcasm and do have some respect for the LDS church.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:39 pm
by _Ray A
Runtu wrote:
I think you'll find a lot of us aren't consumed by anger or sarcasm and do have some respect for the LDS church.
I'm quite sure that if we communicated personally it would be quite different. Most of my "exmo correspondence" is personal, one on one, and that has always been profitable. As just noted in the Off Topic forum, I've been corresponding about Mormonism, with exmos and exmos-to-be, since 1985, and with one correspondent we had a 15 year exchange discussing just about everything related to Mormonism. We left no stone unturned. He left the Church too, and once said that I "needed to get the monkey of Mormonism" off my back, which he totally did and eventually lost all interest in Mormonism. In that respect we were different, and my interest, and liberal beliefs, carried over into the Internet. It would have been very interesting to see what he would have thought, had he lived, but in spite of his dissaffection he maintained a healthy respect for Mormonism. I think he would have been appalled at some exmo forums.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:43 pm
by _Runtu
Ray A wrote:Runtu wrote:
I think you'll find a lot of us aren't consumed by anger or sarcasm and do have some respect for the LDS church.
I'm quite sure that if we communicated personally it would be quite different. Most of my "exmo correspondence" is personal, one on one, and that has always been profitable. As just noted in the Off Topic forum, I've been corresponding about Mormonism, with exmos and exmos-to-be, since 1985, and with one correspondent we had a 15 year exchange discussing just about everything related to Mormonism. We left no stone unturned. He left the Church too, and once said that I "needed to get the monkey of Mormonism" off my back, which he totally did and eventually lost all interest in Mormonism. In that respect we were different, and my interest, and liberal beliefs, carried over into the Internet. It would have been very interesting to see what he would have thought, had he lived, but in spite of his dissaffection he maintained a healthy respect for Mormonism. I think he would have been appalled at some exmo forums.
Maybe if we don't make assumptions about each other, we might find that we have some common ground and can get along just fine. I always enjoyed our personal correspondence, Ray, and it's just been in the last few months that you've decided that nothing good can come from me. Oh, well. I still like you.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:50 pm
by _Ray A
Runtu wrote:Maybe if we don't make assumptions about each other, we might find that we have some common ground and can get along just fine. I always enjoyed our personal correspondence, Ray, and it's just been in the last few months that you've decided that nothing good can come from me. Oh, well. I still like you.
I haven't decided that. Maybe I've forgotten my own journey out of Mormonism, since it was so long ago. I suppose it's the same with divorce. When actually going through it it seems like hell, a never ending hell, and it took about three years to get the bitterness out. Now those feelings seem almost foreign, and sometimes definitively unproductive. Hindsight always helps to see what was unproductive.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:55 pm
by _Runtu
Ray A wrote:Runtu wrote:Maybe if we don't make assumptions about each other, we might find that we have some common ground and can get along just fine. I always enjoyed our personal correspondence, Ray, and it's just been in the last few months that you've decided that nothing good can come from me. Oh, well. I still like you.
I haven't decided that. Maybe I've forgotten my own journey out of Mormonism, since it was so long ago. I suppose it's the same with divorce. When actually going through it it seems like hell, a never ending hell, and it took about three years to get the bitterness out. Now those feelings seem almost foreign, and sometimes definitively unproductive. Hindsight always helps to see what was unproductive.
I don't feel particularly bitter, but then my sense of humor sometimes comes across that way. A few months ago you said that Pahoran was right about me, and of course I can't imagine Pahoran being right about anything. ;-) But considering Russell's opinion of me, that sounded like you think I'm low-life pond scum like he does.