The Origin of the Human

[_truth dancer]

Branching off from the "God is Black," thread (which is really about our fabulous cats... smile)...

I am interested in hearing the apologetic take on the fact that humans originated from Africa and how this fits with their belief and LDS doctrine of Adam and Eve being Caucasians from Missouri.


~dancer~

[_karl61]

Branching off from the "God is Black," thread (which is really about our fabulous cats... smile)...

I am interested in hearing the apologetic take on the fact that humans originated from Africa and how this fits with their belief and LDS doctrine of Adam and Eve being Caucasians from Missouri.


~dancer~

don't you know anything: whites came from another planet - likely Mars. See what Mars looks like! that's what the earth will look like when whites get done with it.

[_beastie]

I'm not sure what the response is to this one. Some have hinted the Adam and Eve story is myth, although can that be reconciled with the temple?

[_skippy the dead]

There's actually a very active thread over on MAD about this. Many of the staunch members (in particular Paul Ray) seem to believe that mankind does literally descend from Adam and Eve. Some of the theories are quite mindblowing. Apparently it had been taught in the early years of the church that Adam and Eve were beamed over from another planet (an early echo of Scientology?). Or that the earth was in a different state before the fall of Adam, which explains the discrepancy between the carbon-dated age of various fossils and the fact that man has only been on the earth for 6000 years (it messes with the instruments, you see).

Or some reconcile the two by supposing that evolution was used by God to create man, and Adam and Eve were just the first humanoids that God chose to carry their spirits.

Here's the link:

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... opic=28045

[_moksha]

I don't think that LDS people really have to hold to that allegorical tale of Missouri with caucasians. We can appreciate that at the time the thought of the plot of land, on which those tired and struggling Saints were standing was special, gave them the strength of the moment. Now that the moment and need for such an allegorical tale has past, I think we are free to embrace science and still be Mormons.

[_Sethbag]

Actually it's more bats*** crazy than I'd even contemplated before. I simply never saw Paul Ray's bizarre idea coming, that perhaps life in the pre-mortal state was in fact non-carbon based, (so was it silicon-based?), and that this would invalidate carbon dating of remains of plants and animals that would have come from that time period. That was more inventive than I'd ever anticipated.

[_barrelomonkeys]

Actually it's more bats*** crazy than I'd even contemplated before. I simply never saw Paul Ray's bizarre idea coming, that perhaps life in the pre-mortal state was in fact non-carbon based, (so was it silicon-based?), and that this would invalidate carbon dating of remains of plants and animals that would have come from that time period. That was more inventive than I'd ever anticipated.

Paul Ray is very inventive. I love reading his posts!

[_A Light in the Darkness]

Just because Adam and Even were the first humans in a spiritual sense, it does not follow that they were the first in the most strict biological sense. This question is just a variation on asking how LDS can reconcile the story of Adam and Eve with the existence of pre-Adamites. The answer to that question should suffice here as well.

[_Runtu]

Just because Adam and Even were the first humans in a spiritual sense, it does not follow that they were the first in the most strict biological sense. This question is just a variation on asking how LDS can reconcile the story of Adam and Eve with the existence of pre-Adamites. The answer to that question should suffice here as well.

Apparently you haven't talked to Paul Ray lately. According to him, you're on the fast track to apostasy. :)

[_truth dancer]

Hi LITD...

Just because Adam and Even were the first humans in a spiritual sense, it does not follow that they were the first in the most strict biological sense. This question is just a variation on asking how LDS can reconcile the story of Adam and Eve with the existence of pre-Adamites. The answer to that question should suffice here as well.

Would you care to elaborate on this?

I'm not following you on this...

Do you embrace the idea that humana have been around for a very long time and originated in Africa? That our ancestors were all of dark skin?

How do you see Adam and Eve as the first human beings and when do you think they arrive on the scene?

~dancer~