LDS housewife writes book; Zoidberg pukes

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LDS housewife writes book; Zoidberg pukes

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So this now octogenarian Mormon lady, Helen Andelin, wrote a book titled "Fascinating Womanhood"; it has gained a number of followers worldwide, spawned an anti-feminist movement and classes are offered in several countries. It started in the 60s and it's still going on! I kid you not. And you thought the Good Wife's Guide was a hoax!

Here are some excerpts (emphasis added):

“Take care that all your conversation is feminine. First, don’t talk too much. Almost all women talk too much. Make sure your conversation is not centered on yourself. Don’t dominate the conversation or share too many opinions.”

"In the face of his marriage problems he has felt he must suppress his anger to hold his marriage securely together. This is not to say he acted wisely but only that he did so out of what he felt was a necessity. A high-principled man who loves his children will make every effort to hold his marriage securely together. When his wife applies Fascinating Womanhood over a period of time he begins to feel secure in his marriage. He no longer feels he must hold his troubled feelings within and loses his fear that speaking out will cause further marriage problems. Then one day, at last, he dares to open Pandora's Box and release the resentful feelings he has kept hidden there.
If you should face such a situation, allow him to empty Pandora's Box. You should, in fact, encourage him to speak freely and openly. And you should not make the mistake of defending yourself, justifying your actions or fighting back. You will have to sit there quietly, taking it all and even agreeing with him by saying "I know, I know, you are right.""

"If your husband doesn't love you, you are likely doing something to cool his affections, or have lost something which awakens his love."

"Does your husband ever speak to you harshly, criticize you unduly, treat you unfairly, neglect you, impose on you, or in any way mistreat you? The important thing is not what he does but how you react. Do you shrink back as if struck by a lash? Do you go into your shell? Do you pay him back with a cutting remark? Or, do you fly off the handle with an ugly temper? If you react in any of these ways you will cause yourself unnecessary grief and lessen your husband's love for you."

"Instead of hurting marriage, childlike anger can increase love and tenderness."

"Within your reach is the possibility of a happy marriage. You can bring it about independent of any effort on the part of your husband."

Here's an excerpt from an article about what is taught in "Fascinating Womanhood" classes (it's from the 70s, but the calsses are still offered, mind you):

"A class of middle-aged women is practicing foot stomping. "That's right," says the teacher, "now walk briskly to the door, pause, lift your chin higher, and look back over your shoulder." The women are taking one version of a lesson in "How to be cute, even adorable when you are angry," an exercise the Fascinating Womanhood movement uses to bring husbands to heel." http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... -1,00.html

I'm sure that after reading all this, you are anxious to get your hands on the book and partake of its feminine insight. Which is not too profound, of course, because we all know that a woman "havest not the capacity to think" (1st Laban 5:16, The Book of Zelph: Another Testament of the Book of Mormon). I have no doubt that it is true in the case of Mrs. Andelin - yet another evidence supporting The Book of Zelph and, by extention, the Book of Mormon!

Visit her homepage here: http://www.fascinatingwomanhood.net

I hereby declare the pukefest open!
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Post by _barrelomonkeys »

HOLY HELL!




Oh, I just made a video that would be appropriate for this subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT8ia7qRJAk
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Post by _truth dancer »

Ohhhh dear. :-(

If a woman is abused, mistreated, or otherwise unhappy in a marriage it is her fault for not being feminine and submissive enough, or for sharing her thoughts and opinions.

Stop being authentic, honest, true, and real and start acting the role of submissive, pathetic, silly, incompetent, dumb, and completely dependent housewife.

Lets all just move to Stepford!

(sigh)

This way of life, this form of interaction, manipulation, and pretense, is really very, very sad. Sad for men, children, women, human society, and all of life.

~dancer~
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Post by _Zoidberg »

barrelomonkeys wrote:HOLY HELL!




Oh, I just made a video that would be appropriate for this subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT8ia7qRJAk


Great video! "I don't cook, clean or put icky things near my mouth" lol
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Post by _beastie »

Yeah, this book was popular when I was out at BYU in the late seventies. She used to regularly give talks to the young ladies.
Even as a believer, I wasn't buying this particular plate of garbage (although I managed to swallow others). I made the mistake of making fun of her book in front of my new roommates, and was horrified when one informed me this lady was her aunt.

Ooooops!
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Re: LDS housewife writes book; Zoidberg pukes

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Zoidberg wrote:

You should, in fact, encourage him to speak freely and openly. And you should not make the mistake of defending yourself, justifying your actions or fighting back. You will have to sit there quietly, taking it all and even agreeing with him by saying "I know, I know, you are right."


I took the liberty to bold another part as well. I think it's my favorite part. "I know, I know, you are right."


*BARF*

Unfortunately I've been acting in many of these ways of late. Merely to keep the peace. Didn't need a handbook to tell me to do this. Merely a domineering, controlling husband to break my spirit and hold me hostage through our children.

*BARF again*
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Post by _Blixa »

Boy that takes me back.

I always thought FW was unintentionally catering to latent pedophilia: the unending references to acting (even dressing) like a little girl and being "child like" were very, very troubling. Even leaving the sexual ickiness out of it, the idea of counseling a woman to never truly be an adult human is despicable.
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Re: LDS housewife writes book; Zoidberg pukes

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barrelomonkeys wrote:
Zoidberg wrote:

You should, in fact, encourage him to speak freely and openly. And you should not make the mistake of defending yourself, justifying your actions or fighting back. You will have to sit there quietly, taking it all and even agreeing with him by saying "I know, I know, you are right."


I took the liberty to bold another part as well. I think it's my favorite part. "I know, I know, you are right."


*BARF*

Unfortunately I've been acting in many of these ways of late. Merely to keep the peace. Didn't need a handbook to tell me to do this. Merely a domineering, controlling husband to break my spirit and hold me hostage through our children.

*BARF again*


I hope you find a way to dump his sorry ass without losing the kids. His behavior sounds repulsive.

Blixa wrote:I always thought FW was unintentionally catering to latent pedophilia: the unending references to acting (even dressing) like a little girl and being "child like" were very, very troubling.


Indeed. I believe there were several articles written by mental health professionals about this aspect of the book.
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Back in the '80s

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I was staying with my aunt and uncle, helping them work on their house. I overheard my aunt talking with some of her friends about this "wonderful book" that would help their marriages. As I started listening to what they said the book contained, I was dumbfounded. It sounded like a manual to help them demean themselves, be dishonest with their spouses, and turn them into a bunch of simpering sneaks.

I swear that either this was that book, or it was a book written by a disciple of this lady. It all sounds too familiar. All I can say, as a man, is that any woman who acted anything like this book recommends repulsed me right away. Pukefest indeed!
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Post by _barrelomonkeys »

Trevor, I was too thinking what kind of man really likes a woman that acts in this manner?

I'm confounded that any man would find any of these mannerisms attractive!


Zoidberg, I'm working on it! by the way, he was attracted to me because I was the opposite of the "manual" then spent the last 6 years trying to strip me of my prior pride and self.

ACK!

*BARF*
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