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I read some information about this on another site. I was aware of the issues in Brazil, which caused the Church to review the ban on the priesthood for black males. What I did'New Testament know was that the Church was about to lose it's tax empt status because of discrimination. It's interesting that the so-called ban on polygamous marriage came at the time Utah had sought but was being denied statehood. Here, when likely given an estimate of the tax that would be paid, the revelation came. But I read that Kimball described it as inspiration, but the members call it a revelation. It seems that the church sometimes moves down certain roads, not because they want to, but because protestant political power is rallied. I also read that some universities were not going to attend events where BYU participated. I wonder what happened in the LDS chapels in South Africa when Kimball recieved his inspiration/revelation. I read that the ban was almost rescinded in 1969 but certain apostles got the issue shelved.

thestyleguy wrote:I read some information about this on another site. I was aware of the issues in Brazil, which caused the Church to review the ban on the priesthood for black males. What I did'New Testament know was that the Church was about to lose it's tax empt status because of discrimination. It's interesting that the so-called ban on polygamous marriage came at the time Utah had sought but was being denied statehood. Here when likely given an estimate of the tax that would be paid, the revelation came. But I read that Kimball described it as inspiration, but the members call it a revelation. It seems that the church sometimes moves down certain roads, not because they want to, but because protestant political power is rallied. I also read that some universities were not going to attend events where BYU participated. I wonder what happened in the LDS chapels in South Africa when Kimball recieved his inspiration/revelation.

In hushed but reverent voices it is whispered that no language was used indicating the Polygamy ban nor the (in "very reverent" voices) "racial priesthood clarification". The 2 black missionarieson my mission always giving the proverbial finger to other missionaries and their white and delightsome attitudes.

thestyleguy wrote:I read some information about this on another site. I was aware of the issues in Brazil, which caused the Church to review the ban on the priesthood for black males. What I did'New Testament know was that the Church was about to lose it's tax empt status because of discrimination. It's interesting that the so-called ban on polygamous marriage came at the time Utah had sought but was being denied statehood. Here, when likely given an estimate of the tax that would be paid, the revelation came. But I read that Kimball described it as inspiration, but the members call it a revelation. It seems that the church sometimes moves down certain roads, not because they want to, but because protestant political power is rallied. I also read that some universities were not going to attend events where BYU participated. I wonder what happened in the LDS chapels in South Africa when Kimball recieved his inspiration/revelation. I read that the ban was almost rescinded in 1969 but certain apostles got the issue shelved.

Yes, you're quite right, styleguy. There was enormous social pressure being placed on the Church to remove this racist policy. For example, the Church was sued by the NAACP over a scouting debacle. Basically, black youths could not be scout leaders, since the Church required that troop leaders be priesthood holders. TBMs and Mopologists like to gloss over these pertinent social issues, claiming that it was all due to "revelation," but this is just a red herring. A further damning tidbit is that there was rumored to be a Church News article which revealed that SWK actually asked the Lord for permission to lift the ban! Also, I'm sure you know that the same issue of Church News which announced the end of the ban also featured a headline, demanded by Mark E. Petersen, that read, "Interracial Marriage Strongly Discouraged."

The sad thing is that the foundation was the Egyptian papyrus. Here is the papyrus which supports interracial marriage;)

thestyleguy wrote:The sad thing is that the foundation was the Egyptian papyrus. Here is the papyrus which supports interracial marriage;)

Here it is!!! You have found the missing papyrus. Had this been found, it could have not only opened up the priesthood to blacks, but brought many Nubian wives to polygamous households.

And just a little reminder...

The BAN IS STILL IN PLACE! :-)

The church now allows black men from Africa to hold the priesthood but it still does not let women of any skin color or ancestry hold "the power."

Personally, I do not think there is some exclusive Godly power held by a handful of men who believe in Joseph Smith... nevertheless, the LDS church still has the ban alive and well!

I wonder if there will come a time when society abhors sexism as it does racism.....

~dancer~

The priesthood ban had to do with families. Namely the sons of Noah.

Each son bore the burden of the priesthood at different times. The Gentiles could not bear the priesthood until after the death of Christ, and the last familiy line didn't carry it until the late seventies.

Women will not bear the priesthood because they have different responsibilities. Namely nurturing the children born into the covenant.

Well that solves everything - not!

The ban was put in place because (to say it lightly) of a very poor reading of the papyrus.

truth dancer wrote:And just a little reminder...

The BAN IS STILL IN PLACE! :-)

The church now allows black men from Africa to hold the priesthood but it still does not let women of any skin color or ancestry hold "the power."

~dancer~

Even while we were Mormons, I let my wife hold the priesthood on many occasions.

Polygamy Porter wrote: Even while we were Mormons, I let my wife hold the priesthood on many occasions.

LOL