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"No president could possibly take orders or even input from religious leaders telling him what to do,'' Romney, a Mormon, said today on CBS's ``Face the Nation'' program. ``My church wouldn't endeavor to tell me what to do on an issue, and I wouldn't listen to them on an issue that related to our nation.''

..or, in other words. I am proud to be 100% Mormon but do not follow the prophet. Lie.

3 years ago (as a TBM myself), I would have considered him to be unprincipled and without allegiance. The chip is missing for him to be a TBM. Any Mormon that would come right out and make these two statements wasn't the type of Mormon I could rely on. I would want him to follow a prophet because a prophet could not lead anyone astray - ever.

Fast forward to today. Hillary would be unthinkable. But I hope he is not nominated to run against her.

If he is a TBM he is making 2 baldfaced lies. Can a TBM Mormon trust him? no. Even if he is lying.

If he is being truthful then he could not be a TBM. He would undoubtedly fail his temple recommend interview.

He troubles me.

Right on, Inconceivable. Romney's posturing should be shameful to TBMs, whether he's telling the truth or lying. Ah, but they'll vote for him anyway out of tribal loyalty and visceral hatred for Hillary.

I am suspicious of Romney. First, because he joined with Orrin Hatch in retroactively approving of federal meddling in the issue of polygamy for the purpose of poltical advantage on the gay marriage issue. The fact that the two took the same position at the same time suggests to me that they received direction on how to handle the issue from the COB.

Second, I am inclined to believe Judy Dushku's story about Romney clearing his temporary and phoney pro-choice position with LDS leaders. I don't see a compelling reason not to believe it.

The two events together lead me to believe that Romney is very open to taking political direction from the LDS Church, and that he is willing to act in accordance with their directives. I would prefer that my next president be a man who does not receive direction from and follow the suggestions of a decidedly non-democratic organization in Utah.

Trevor wrote: I would prefer that my next president be a man who does not receive direction from and follow the suggestions of a decidedly non-democratic organization in Utah.

What do you have against a woman president?

harmony wrote:

Trevor wrote: I would prefer that my next president be a man who does not receive direction from and follow the suggestions of a decidedly non-democratic organization in Utah.

What do you have against a woman president?

I don't have anything against a female president. I think it would be great! I don't like Hillary's policies, though.

If the Republicans would wake up, and rally behind a competent female candidate, I would definitely support her.

I don't trust Romney, either. I like Rudy Giuliani.

Hubby and I massively argue about this one. I told him that I think he favors Romney simply because he's a Church member, and he told me that I don't favor Romney because he's a Church member.

We're probably both right on that score.

;)

harmony wrote:What do you have against a woman president?

Ouch! I sure did screw that one up. And I am usually so good about using gender inclusive language. Feel free to point out any lapses whenever you see them!

harmony wrote:

Trevor wrote: I would prefer that my next president be a man who does not receive direction from and follow the suggestions of a decidedly non-democratic organization in Utah.

What do you have against a woman president?

Good catch, Harmony!

But I still love ya, Trevor. Especially now since you told off Charity. So, I forgive you. :)

KA

Trevor wrote:

harmony wrote:What do you have against a woman president?

Ouch! I sure did screw that one up. And I am usually so good about using gender inclusive language. Feel free to point out any lapses whenever you see them!

I agree that Hillary isn't my ideal as a president. I much prefer Elizabeth Dole. But there's nothing in the Constitution that says president = man.

Personally, aside from her politics, the only thing I have against Hillary is Bill.

KimberlyAnn wrote:But I still love ya, Trevor. Especially now since you told off Charity. So, I forgive you. :)

As I and others have pointed out before, charity has one of the most ironic board-monikers of anyone I have ever seen.