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Jason Bourne: Ask away
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:19 am
by _Jersey Girl
The following exchanges took place between yourself and I on the "Origins of the Book of Mormon" thread.
Jason Bourne wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:Mercury wrote:So here goes:
Was the Book of Mormon a consequence of Joe stringing everyone along for years? imagine you are joe. You swear up and down the white indian teleporting into your room every so often wants you to have this weighty gold brick with a record on it. You get married, people think your a scam artist and then you start realizing that if you don't produce the book the gullible saps will even lose faith in you. So you swear the towel covering the brick is said gold plates and stick your head in a hat, relying on the saps to transcribe your colorful rantings.
Was the Book of Mormon just an end to a continual tall tale that helped joe learn how to spin even bigger tales?
At the risk of offending every TBM in sight...the Book of Mormon was the defining moment in which a game became a religion.
I am not so much offended. Rather I wonder if you examine your own religion and book with the same critical attitude. And actually, what utter nonesense you state. What was the game pray do tell.
Yes, of course I do, Jason, and have done so for years. When people challenge me regarding my religion, I don't answer by saying "Yeah, but what about those Mormons?" Feel free to create a thread about that any time and question me if you like. This thread is about the Book of Mormon. What game? Fooling people.
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:20 am
by _Jersey Girl
And here is your response:
Jason Bourne wrote:Yes, of course I do, Jason, and have done so for years.
Do you now. Can you tell me how you feel about inerrancy and who actually wrote the Bible?
When people challenge me regarding my religion, I don't answer by saying "Yeah, but what about those Mormons?"
I just want to make sure critics of the LDS Church that claim to be religious have used the same critical methods to examine their own faith. I am convinced that most who would do so thoroughly will conclude that the conservative view of Christianity is just not tenable. I have little patience for double standards.
Feel free to create a thread about that any time and question me if you like.
Perhaps I will starting with the questions above. Perhaps I won't. Time is precious.
This thread is about the Book of Mormon.
Big deal. It is a free speech board. If you do not like what I posted ignore it.
What game? Fooling people.
I think I know what you are getting at. Can you be more specific?
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:22 am
by _Jersey Girl
And my final reply to you in this series:
Jason,
Your comments serve only to derail the thread, the topic of which is origins of the Book of Mormon. I will not reply to your comments regarding the Bible, my religious views or anything of that nature on this thread. It is an evasive maneuver and nothing more. As I stated previously, if you would like to question me start a new topic thread and I'll be glad to reply to your inquiry there. I'm more than certain that you will find my answers very straightforward in that regard.
I'm not going to cooperate with attempts to derail this thread.
Jersey Girl
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:24 am
by _Jersey Girl
Jason,
There it is lined up for you. If you would like to question me, please do it here. Let's see how many times I refer to the Book of Mormon or Mormonism in order to answer your questions. I will likely not tell you how I "feel", rather what I think.
List your questions. I'm ready whenever you are.
Jersey Girl
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:30 am
by _LifeOnaPlate
My question: do you think the Bible is perfect and complete?
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:40 am
by _Polygamy Porter
LifeOnaPlate wrote:My question: do you think the Bible is perfect and complete?
How typical.
Mormons believe the Book of Mormon is "the most correct book on earth" yet when they are asked to defend it and that claim where do they turn?
To the lesser correct book, the Bible.
They both are stories, written by men. Got it?
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:21 pm
by _LifeOnaPlate
Polygamy Porter wrote:LifeOnaPlate wrote:My question: do you think the Bible is perfect and complete?
How typical.
Mormons believe the Book of Mormon is "the most correct book on earth" yet when they are asked to defend it and that claim where do they turn?
To the lesser correct book, the Bible.
They both are stories, written by men. Got it?
Well, to pull a Clinton, it all depends on what is meant by the "most correct." If he meant correct overall, including mechanically, I doubt it would have been written in our amazingly cruddy English language. My point is that of consistency, that's it and that's all, Mr. Polygamy Porter.
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:25 pm
by _barrelomonkeys
I think it's easier for LDS to defend against mainstream Christians attacks against their faith. Really it seems like pot and kettle smacking each other about a bit with neither getting out of the fire. I can't stand to watch for more than a year. Tops.
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:39 pm
by _Jason Bourne
Jersey Girl wrote:Jason,
There it is lined up for you. If you would like to question me, please do it here. Let's see how many times I refer to the Book of Mormon or Mormonism in order to answer your questions. I will likely not tell you how I "feel", rather what I think.
List your questions. I'm ready whenever you are.
Jersey Girl
Jersey Girl, whythe jab about feelings? Where the hell does that come from?
Ok.....here we go.
Who wrote the books of the New Testament? Are they really written by who the books claim wrote them? If not what does that say for their integrity to begin with? If the authers were forgers and using others names why do you trust them? How reliable is the Bible? If the author lied about who they were how can the Bible be inerrant? Do you believe it is innerant?
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:14 pm
by _keene
Jason Bourne wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:Jason,
There it is lined up for you. If you would like to question me, please do it here. Let's see how many times I refer to the Book of Mormon or Mormonism in order to answer your questions. I will likely not tell you how I "feel", rather what I think.
List your questions. I'm ready whenever you are.
Jersey Girl
Jersey Girl, whythe jab about feelings? Where the hell does that come from?
Ok.....here we go.
Who wrote the books of the New Testament? Are they really written by who the books claim wrote them? If not what does that say for their integrity to begin with? If the authers were forgers and using others names why do you trust them? How reliable is the Bible? If the author lied about who they were how can the Bible be inerrant? Do you believe it is innerant?
Interesting questions. I look forward to Jersey Girl's response.
In the meanwhile though, I have
this. It's a documentary entitled "Who wrote the Bible?" Very interesting stuff.