Please give financial reports in Conference again

[_Mahonri]

The LDS Church used to do it. Be responsible and report the financial condition and affairs of the Church so the membership would know what was happening.
Please do so again. Let the members know how much the make-work jobs given to otherwise unemployable lardbutts cost. How much the buildings and maintenance cost. Where the money actually comes from and where it really goes.
TRUST the members with the facts. Quit hiding those who swindle, steal and cheat the Church out of money. Prosecute them publicly just like you do some guy who published a calendar of Missionaries.

It is money freely given, where is the Accounting and Accountability?

And before it comes up, NO, I don't trust these guys. They listen to lawyers rather than having the first and overriding answer to any question be "what is right and just". Hiding facts and hiding behind lawyers lies and obfuscation only makes one look more like the liars and thieves these actions project.

Be open, honest and aboveboard with the money, where it comes from and where it goes. Even if one is stupid enough to believe Jesus needs $2 Billion for a shopping center it would be basic honesty to let those who profess membership know just where he is getting it from.

Publish the financial report once again. Not doing so looks as if someone is hiding something.

[_LifeOnaPlate]

Either way people will complain.

[_harmony]

The LDS Church used to do it. Be responsible and report the financial condition and affairs of the Church so the membership would know what was happening.
Please do so again. Let the members know how much the make-work jobs given to otherwise unemployable lardbutts cost. How much the buildings and maintenance cost. Where the money actually comes from and where it really goes.
TRUST the members with the facts. Quit hiding those who swindle, steal and cheat the Church out of money. Prosecute them publicly just like you do some guy who published a calendar of Missionaries.

It is money freely given, where is the Accounting and Accountability?

And before it comes up, NO, I don't trust these guys. They listen to lawyers rather than having the first and overriding answer to any question be "what is right and just". Hiding facts and hiding behind lawyers lies and obfuscation only makes one look more like the liars and thieves these actions project.

Be open, honest and aboveboard with the money, where it comes from and where it goes. Even if one is stupid enough to believe Jesus needs $2 Billion for a shopping center it would be basic honesty to let those who profess membership know just where he is getting it from.

Publish the financial report once again. Not doing so looks as if someone is hiding something.

For all we know, the reason the financials were pulled in the first place may still be valid.

[_Daniel Peterson]

I'm against this. If Church members realized how much of their tithing money goes to support my yachts, my Alpine hideaways, my Bahamian retreat, my fleet of private jets, and my otherwise lavish Mopologist lifestyle, there would be widespread rebellion in the ranks.

[_harmony]

I'm against this. If Church members realized how much of their tithing money goes to support my yachts, my Alpine hideaways, my Bahamian retreat, my fleet of private jets, and my otherwise lavish Mopologist lifestyle, there would be widespread rebellion in the ranks.

So... you're saying BYU professors are overpaid?

[_Daniel Peterson]

I'm against this. If Church members realized how much of their tithing money goes to support my yachts, my Alpine hideaways, my Bahamian retreat, my fleet of private jets, and my otherwise lavish Mopologist lifestyle, there would be widespread rebellion in the ranks.

So... you're saying BYU professors are overpaid?

Not at all. I deserve at least twice as many yachts, chalets, beachfront cottages, jets, and limousines as I currently have.

[_harmony]

Not at all. I deserve at least twice as many yachts, chalets, beachfront cottages, jets, and limousines as I currently have.

Two times zero is still zero. (I have a friend who is a dean on one of BYU's fine campuses... two times zero is still zero).

Nonetheless, open financials could be either troublesome and a testimony builder, depending on how the money is spent.

[_Dr. Shades]

Nonetheless, open financials could be either troublesome and a testimony builder, depending on how the money is spent.

I'm not going to outright disagree with you here, but please allow me to give an alternate viewpoint:

Even if any and all financial dealings are 100% legal and on the up-and-up, it's still not in the church's best interests to reveal the finances.

Why? Because if the rank-and-file saw how many billions were pouring in, they'd all say, "Heh, what's my measly 10% compared to how much they're raking in? I obviously need the 10% more than they do."

[_collegeterrace]

Nonetheless, open financials could be either troublesome and a testimony builder, depending on how the money is spent.

I'm not going to outright disagree with you here, but please allow me to give an alternate viewpoint:

Even if any and all financial dealings are 100% legal and on the up-and-up, it's still not in the church's best interests to reveal the finances.

Why? Because if the rank-and-file saw how many billions were pouring in, they'd all say, "Heh, what's my measly 10% compared to how much they're raking in? I obviously need the 10% more than they do."

that's exactly why I left!

Plus all of the time spent by the other members, I said meh, I need my time more than they do.

So I quit paying tithes and quit going to church. It was a win win.

[_collegeterrace]

A dead prophet, Hinckley, said this during an interview held just before the 2002 mO'lympics:

REPORTER: IN MY COUNTRY, THE…WE SAY THE PEOPLE'S CHURCHES, THE PROTESTANTS, THE CATHOLICS, THEY PUBLISH ALL THEIR BUDGETS, TO ALL THE PUBLIC.

HINCKLEY: YEAH. YEAH.

REPORTER: WHY IS IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOUR CHURCH?

HINCKLEY: WELL, WE SIMPLY THINK THAT THE…THAT INFORMATION BELONGS TO THOSE WHO MADE THE CONTRIBUTION, AND NOT TO THE WORLD. THAT'S THE ONLY THING. YES.

The last tithing settlement that I attended, I was only shown my contributions and not the entire budget.

That dead prophet was a liar.

Watch the entire deceitful interview here, or read it here.
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