This whole Meldrum drama is giving me a EXMORGASM!

[Guest]

ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod OHhhhh...... MYyyyyyy..... GODddDDDAAAHHH!!!!!!

YES!!! YES!! YEeeeeS!!!

Oh crap man, this battle between the so called scholars and Meldrum has me in such a good mood I nearly creamed my jeans.

Meldrum has made his move on his blog, which he calls The FIRM Foundation Blog! How funny is that? OMG I am about to pee my pants from laughter!
Here is a post from his blog:

From the FAIR website (quoted below) we gain a proper perspective of the significance of the FAIR review of my research.

“FAIR is not owned, controlled by or affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. All research and opinions provided on this site are the sole responsibility of FAIR, and should not be interpreted as official statements of LDS doctrine, belief or practice.”

As such, their collective opinions are no more, nor less, valid than any general member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

All members of the church are given the power of discernment through the gift of the Holy Ghost at baptism. It is encouraged that members use this God-given power to determine for themselves whether something is true or in error. Members need not assume that all truth must be first filtered through scholars before being able to find and know it for themselves.

Does he stop there? No, faack no!

I had several times requested to have these issues resolved in private, rather than a public forum, but FAIR believes that they are protecting the church and the testimonies of its general membership by attacking a fellow brother in the gospel in good standing in the church because he espouses ideas not held by the dominantly Mesoamerican leaning leadership of FAIR.

Hmmm.. Fee! Fie! Foe! Fum! I smell the blood of a Peterson!

It is hoped that those who take the time to read the reviews will do so with an eye toward what would motivate FAIR to consume so much of its resources to squelch an opposing view on geography? Could it be that they have a commercial interest in doing so? I didn’t know until a few weeks ago that FAIR has a distinct interest in attempting to discredit this research, you see, they just released a few months ago a new DNA DVD title ‘The Book of Mormon and New World DNA’ which is currently available on their website as well as Deseret Book. See http://store.fairlds.org/prod/p1893036073.html to see their commercial offering.

Could this be a motivating factor in their choosing to put so much effort into review of my research, to protect their monetary interests?

Oh hoo hoo, do not get up, it gets even better! Poor Bro Meldrum, defender of all things Zelph, gets treated by the F boys worse than any other anti-mormon!

What are they so afraid of about this research getting out that they would go to such great lengths to destroy it? As far as I know their extensive review is unprecedented for any other previous review matter, including anti-Mormon works. Usually opposing theories are relegated to a page or two of review, while these reviews (of which they have posted for a couple of sections so far) are currently more than 66 pages in length! FAIR has certainly out-done itself against a fellow member, when they never (to my knowledge) launched such a full-scale attack on anti-Mormon critics of the church.

It makes you wonder, doesn’t it?

Ok, go take a pee so's you don't piss your pants on this next part!

FAIR President Scott Gordon said that the articles were not an attack, yet Ogden Standard Examiner newspaper columnist Doug Gibson, an unbiased reporter, after reading FAIR’s review states “the scholars have launched a counterattack” and “The summary…doesn’t go after Meldrum’s theories much...” and finally, “Instead, it portrays Meldrum as a crackpot, a man who claims to receive direct revelation from God on Book of Mormon matters and who insinuates that God has told him not to try and convert Mormon scholars.”

Oh man, oh man, who of us exmormons in our wildest dreams would have ever thought that the worst enemy of the Danielites would have come in the form of a chapel Mormon!

Keep an eye on his blog for some kick ass supporting comments! Post early post often!

[_collegeterrace]

For even more read the Ogden Standard Examiner article Rodney mentioned in his blog:

If I had to choose a "Book of Mormon trip," I'd choose Meldrum's. It's a lot cheaper and less hassle than going to Central America.

(After all, Parley P. Pratt, in his very entertaining autobiography, recounts being led to a Nephite gravesite while near Illinois.)

The comments are so choice,:

If anyone is "slugging", it's FAIR; Rod Meldrum has never attacked FAIR. To state that the "scholars" have launched a counterattack presupposes that Rod has launched an initial attack, which is not true. Sharing his research is not an attack.

What does FAIR have to gain by attacking Rod Meldrum? If FAIR's purpose is to defend Mormonism, then they should have no argument against Rod, for his purpose is also to defend. By the way, FAIR does "pitch" a DVD of their own.

[_Dr. Shades]

Vindication! Sweet, sweet vindication (yet again)!

As I explained on my website years ago, "The most interesting aspect of this dichotomy is that each group claims that its views are the 'true' Mormonism." FAIR's smear job is yet again bearing this out.

. . . FAIR believes that they are protecting the church and the testimonies of its general membership by attacking a fellow brother in the gospel in good standing in the church because he espouses ideas not held by the dominantly Mesoamerican leaning leadership of FAIR.

Looks like, in this case at least, FAIR is going the route of the MA&D board itself: It's not trying to defend Mormonism, it's trying to defend Mormon apologetics.

It is hoped that those who take the time to read the reviews will do so with an eye toward what would motivate FAIR to consume so much of its resources to squelch an opposing view on geography? Could it be that they have a commercial interest in doing so?

Freakin' PRICELESS!

Could this be a motivating factor in their choosing to put so much effort into review of my research, to protect their monetary interests?

That's gonna leave a mark!

FAIR has certainly out-done itself against a fellow member, when they never (to my knowledge) launched such a full-scale attack on anti-Mormon critics of the church.

It makes you wonder, doesn’t it?

It reminds me of what happens when a questioning Mormon shows up on the MA&D board: Anti-Mormons they can handle, but a questioning member within their ranks? Bring out the big guns!

Oh man, oh man, who of us exmormons in our wildest dreams would have ever thought that the worst enemy of the Danielites would have come in the form of a chapel Mormon!

Mopologetics has much more to fear from the Paul Osbornes and the Rodney Meldrums of the world than they do the critics.

[_Gadianton]

Could this be a motivating factor in their choosing to put so much effort into review of my research, to protect their monetary interests?

Sounds like "That old cash nexus" to me. A little less demand, perhaps, for those 85$ books Kerry complained about in his video?

[_truth dancer]

God could clear this whole matter up in about 1 minute, make that five seconds.

Christ, while visiting the prophet could just say...

"Mesoamerica" or he could say, "North America".

Simple as that and this whole matter is over. The church and wealthy members would save millions of dollars, untold numbers of hours of research and writing, and be able to put their efforts and resources toward something that would benefit humanity, (or someone).

What is going wrong here?

Are the prophets not asking the right questions? (sigh)

Are they unable to discern what the HG or Christ is telling them?

Is God enjoying the fight between apologists and traditional members?

The question is not where did the Book of Mormon events take place, the question is why is God not inspiring the leaders?

~td~

[_The Nehor]

I don't care who wins but for Meldrum (who said his DVD sales are his sole source of income) to claim that someone else is doing this for commercial interests is silly.

I distrust Meldrum. I distrust anyone who tries to sell me revelation. The only thing worse then Simon trying to buy the power of God would have been Peter trying to sell it.

Oh, and Porter, if you're that desperate for release that a disagreement between LDS apologists turns you on, I think you need to seek help.

[_Equality]

This really is fun to watch, isn't it? It is interesting that you have good and faithful members of the church like Meldrum actually believing the scriptures and the prophets being excoriated by the apologists who necessarily must reject the scriptures and the prophets to advance their theories. And it's the scholarly apologists who get the tacit backing of the church through the BYU and FARMS. All the while, Tommy Boy I suppose is sitting around counting his senines in the Upper Room and planning the next real estate development project for downtown SLC. One really does wonder why, if faithful members of the church are being "deceived" by DNA and there is such contention in the ranks of people who are just trying to believe and follow the "gospel," God and his current prophets don't show even 1/100th the interest in the subject that they did in the 19th century, when God and his prophets were quite liberal with information about where Book of Mormon events took place. I guess God is too busy telling the prophets to wage war on gay rights to worry about answering doctrinal questions for faithful members of the flock. Just another bit of evidence for the proposition that God, if He exists, is a real prick.

[_solomarineris]

Nehor
I distrust anyone who tries to sell me revelation.

ROFTLMAAOOO.....
Duuude,
You've been spoon fed this rubbish when you were sucking sweet milk
from your mother's soft bosom.

[_The Nehor]

Nehor
I distrust anyone who tries to sell me revelation.

ROFTLMAAOOO.....
Duuude,
You've been spoon fed this rubbish when you were sucking sweet milk
from your mother's soft bosom.

Thank you for your insightful comment.

[_LifeOnaPlate]

Having seen the Meldrum thing from the inside, I can say your taking of his every word as truth is unfortunate.