BC the broken record foolishly argues over and over:
Who do you think he had sex with? Have you checked the children?
Why do you argue this? Polygamy had the main purpose the propagation of children. All JSs successors if polygamy had sex with their wives. If Smith did not he broke the command of his alleged revelation on this. Are you really arguing his marriages were sexless and somehow ok as platonic relations? If so did his successors corrupt his intent?
karl61 wrote:bcspace - how many times have you had sex with your wife when she wasn't pregnant. how many children do you have?
A valid point.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
DarkHelmet wrote:Is it possible to have a secret spiritual wife, such as a woman that doesn't know she is married to you, but she is because you performed a secret ceremony in your house where you married yourself to her? It may seem creepy to some, but if you have the authority of God on your side, it should be a legitimate marriage. You could consummate the marriage through masturbation while thinking about her.
Funny, that's not the part of the marriage JSJr wanted to keep that secret.
karl61 wrote:Plus Joseph Smith was a Mormon which means if he was having sex outside of marriage it was everything but vaginal sex.
I don't think they had light cotton back then.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Jason Bourne wrote:BC the broken record foolishly argues over and over:
Who do you think he had sex with? Have you checked the children?
Why do you argue this? Polygamy had the main purpose the propagation of children. All JSs successors if polygamy had sex with their wives. If Smith did not he broke the command of his alleged revelation on this. Are you really arguing his marriages were sexless and somehow ok as platonic relations? If so did his successors corrupt his intent?
This is an excellent point that I have not seen addressed. Why do Mormons get their panties in a wad when you suggest Joseph Smith had sex with his plural wives, yet they openly admit to and celebrate the multitude of children his successors had with their plural wives? Did the "revelation" on polygamy change sometime after 1844?
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
I think it is tragic and sad that Joseph Smith would use his position as a spiritual leader to coerce young girls and other men’s wives into having sex with him.
beefcalf wrote:Oh, and bcspace... I really, really feel sorry for you. Defending the indefensible is such a sh*tty job.
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"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
