What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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Yep, once again I ask since the church manuals and teaching materials keep printing that the paper was destroyed for cause and printed lies.

Still waiting for some of the myth believers to point out the lies.
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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Hey Joseph/Darrick;

You don't have to post the same damn thread over and over and over again!

What lies in the Nauvoo Expositor?
Hey simone, what lies in the Nauvoo Expositor?
Why was Joseph continually arrested?

I demand these threads be "combined" as mine was.
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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Simon Belmont wrote:Hey Joseph/Darrick;

You don't have to post the same damn thread over and over and over again!

What lies in the Nauvoo Expositor?
Hey simone, what lies in the Nauvoo Expositor?
Why was Joseph continually arrested?

I demand these threads be "combined" as mine was.


Simon, I will join you in your demands and campaign for you in your behalf if you will please point out one real lie in the Nauvoo Expositor.
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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Lying about lies.

Wonder where I've heard that before?
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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Yep, once again I ask since the church manuals and teaching materials keep printing that the paper was destroyed for cause and printed lies.

Still waiting for some of the myth believers to point out the lies.


When you address the yellow journalistic part which I've quoted before (and no one had a reasonable anwser to), then you will know.
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bcspace wrote:When you address the yellow journalistic part which I've quoted before (and no one had a reasonable anwser to), then you will know.


Uh, mr. space...?

Some of us haven't been following so closely. Can you refresh our memory on your question about 'yellow journalism' so we might take a crack at it? Hmmm?

Thanks!
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Uh, mr. space...?

Some of us haven't been following so closely. Can you refresh our memory on your question about 'yellow journalism' so we might take a crack at it? Hmmm?

Thanks!


Sure. It's the part with the mispelled "syncophant".
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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beefcalf wrote:
bcspace wrote:When you address the yellow journalistic part which I've quoted before (and no one had a reasonable anwser to), then you will know.


Uh, mr. space...?

Some of us haven't been following so closely. Can you refresh our memory on your question about 'yellow journalism' so we might take a crack at it? Hmmm?

Thanks!

I think you'll find the post bc is referring to here, 8th or 9th post down.

You be the judge as to whether or not anyone had a "reasonable answer" to him.
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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Joseph wrote:Yep, once again I ask since the church manuals and teaching materials keep printing that the paper was destroyed for cause and printed lies.

I'm not sure what sources you have looked at (probably none). There are only a handful of references to the Nauvoo Expositor on the Church website. I suppose what you have in mind are the descriptions of it as "libelous" and "slander[ing] the Prophet."

The OED defines slander as "the utterance or dissemination of false statements or reports concerning a person, or malicious misrepresentation of his actions, in order to defame or injure him."

By that standard, the Expositor was certainly slanderous.
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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We need to see the context of what happened in Nauvoo. Once we see the context, we can understand the reaction of the nauvoo citizens against the Expositor. First, the LDS came to Nauvoo for peace and quiet after being persecuted by other communities. They begin to build a wonderful city complete with temple to worship freely. In the neighboring community we have a yellow paper in Warsaw printing inciteful language against the LDS and Joseph Smith. We need to try to imagine just what the reaction of the Mormons to this paper. Were they concerned with mobs? I think so. Were they concerned with the mobs coming to burn them out once again? I think so.

And now William Law decides with some help to set up a similiar paper in the heart of mormonland. What should the Mormons do? And we know that the paper was founded by a man who desired vengence against Joseph Smith and the Mormon leadership. To close down such a paper was just. But it was how it was done that became the problem. And to my understanding, Joseph Smith offered to pay for any damages. But it was refused. Why?
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