LDS Church takes public stance on immigration legislation

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Re: LDS Church takes public stance on immigration legislation

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One thing is clear: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has abandoned its claims to neutrality on these bills.

And that surprised many who have been told repeatedly by the church’s spokesmen that it had no position and that the its lobbyists, Bill Evans and John Taylor, were on Capitol Hill solely to answer questions.

Though Evans and Taylor assured Ron Mortensen, an ardent opponent of illegal immigration, that the church wasn’t actively lobbying on the issue, the two “spent literally the last 10 days in the back alleys of the Capitol, like full-time fixtures,” Mortensen said. “It wouldn’t have taken that much time to say the church is neutral.”

Both supporters and opponents agree that the church’s endorsement of the Utah Compact and its involvement in the legislative process was a game-changer.


Assurances that they were not lobbying when they were actively lobbying sounds like these two could be future guest lecturers in apologetics at the Y.
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But it has left faithful Mormons who support strict enforcement of immigration laws grappling with the message from their ecclesiastical leaders.

“I am shocked that the church would support a bill that literally sacrifices 50,000 Utah children, who are the victims of identity theft, for the benefit of illegal aliens,” Mortensen said. “The church has sent so many conflicting messages, I just don’t know where they are coming from.”

I lol'ed.
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The conservative members (read: 80% of the church) are going to hate this.
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Liars, thieves and hypocrites... so what else is new?
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Buffalo wrote:The conservative members (read: 80% of the church) are going to hate this.


I think your estimate of 80% conservative members is conservative.

67% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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Will be interesting to read defenses of the church's position on the mopo side from those who clearly disagree on a personal level.

Is this primarily motivated by protecting a growth stream?
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