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It's the church of Cleon Skousen.

Convince me otherwise.

Recent events have ripped the cover off the facade of nice that has protected Mormonism for so long. The face mask/vaxx thing has exposed Mormonism's true colors. In so many ways I feel vindicated, after having spent all my formative years feeling guilty and depraved because I never quite saw things like the other Mormons saw them. Now I at least know I'm an okay person.
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That’s one of the damaging things about Mormonism — that feeling that something must be wrong with you because you don’t see things the way good Mormons are supposed to.
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Thank you.
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slskipper wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:04 am
Thank you.
And the Church could simply disappear tomorrow and you would still be your. Or it could baptize a gazillion people next year and you would still be you.

You don’t need anything from the Mormon Church to validate who you are. As they say, shake the dust off your feet and be you.
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My self worth improved improved (I want to say healed) after I finally left the church. It's a control tactic of the church to keep members thinking they are not good enough and the only way to fix yourself is to head the guidance from Q15. They keep harping on doing better, lengthen your stride, be perfect. If you feel flawed its because of the continuous toxic stream of crap coming from the COB. Most of the messages from SLC are control based.
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Thanks for this thread, Skipper -

Overbearing systems affect different people in a wide variety of ways. Some individuals seem to shed the impossible parts like water off a duck's back. Many of us, on the other hand, have suffered, and can relate to thoughts being shared here. I tried to express a bit of this in a fictional context, a couple of years ago, like this:
Ironically, as soon as Joh . . . started questioning things, she became more confident all around. She was astonished to discover that what she had once identified as her “spirituality” had little to do with religion. She gradually learned tolerance instead, and she began to like herself and others.
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Some of the members sure make it seem that way.

But it’s also the church of Kirton McConkie. The Church of The Correlation Department. The church of Ensign Peak Investments.

These two forces are currently battling it out, finally, after the vaccine announcement. And it has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, on either side.
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drumdude wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:25 pm
Some of the members sure make it seem that way.

But it’s also the church of Kirton McConkie. The Church of The Correlation Department. The church of Ensign Peak Investments.

These two forces are currently battling it out, finally, after the vaccine announcement. And it has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, on either side.
UPDATE:
It is now Kirton McConkie Monson. Thomas's son, the sexual pervert? Yeah him, he got canned out of his job for sexual harassment, and so Kirton McConkie hired the prophet's son, because... you know..... blood of the prophet deserves the very highest salary regardless of his personal morality. See new podcast episode of Bill Reel and Radio Free Mormon for knowing this is not just sourpuss gossip, but the real McCoy.
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Hugh Nibley claimed he bumped into Adolf Hitler, Albert Einstein, Winston Churchill, Gertrude Stein, and the Grand Duke Vladimir Romanoff. Dishonesty is baked into Mormonism.
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The answer is D.
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