thews wrote:What "hate" do you equate to interpreting facts? When the rose-colored glasses don't fit your skewed interpretation? "Anti-Mormon" is used as a shield to trigger a rejection to those that believe the distortion, as they don't know the truth. Please give us your spin on the following facts:
Hate is partially defined by a person spending their lives attacking others both falsely and degradingly unfairly. This is what you do.
1) The Book of Abraham is an incorrect translation of a common pagan papyrus that had nothing to do with Abraham (as Joseph Smith claimed when he "translated" it).
A lie.... There is not evidence whatsoever (or little anyway) that demonstrates that the found "fragments" are in fact the actual Book of Abraham that Joseph claimed to have translated. The only evidence that you have is a couple of the "facsimiles", something for which is a DIME A DOZEN for anyone that knows Egyptian research. Further, the Facsimiles never were the Book of Abraham, they were simply an interpretive rendering with the parchments and story. Again, anyone that knows Egyptian research, that there are MANY versions of such facsimiles having and going with MANY different story's as "art" representing the story's, not actually having anything to do with the story's.
In contrast, there is plenty of evidence that the found fragments were simply Joseph's working copies and parts of the tones of material he gave away, material low and behold, had nothing to do with the Book of Abraham.
Assumptions and anti-mormon claims and gossip are not "facts" which debunk the Book of Abraham.
That makes you a liar. If the book was in fact translated from the found fragments, we would not be Mormon. We are not dumb. In fact, we are much more intelligent than you.
2) Mormon doctrine is racist, as the Curse of Cain is specifically defined by skin color.
Another lie.... First, there is no "Mormon doctrine 'is' racist". At the most, you could claim it once was, but even that is a lie. Reason being is second, the curse of cain was never defined by skin color, it was defined by LINEAGE. Two separate animals buddy. Skin color yes was a possible sign of the curse, but not the curse. The curse was the denial of the priesthood. Third, proof that it wasn't according to skin color is because a dozen other races at least who were AS BLACK as African blacks WERE in fact given the Priesthood, not to mention all the OTHER COLORS of the spectrum. Fourth, even "whites" were not given the Priesthood or had it removed not because of their skin color but because of their lineage. Fifth, if Mormons were actually "racists", we would have segregated like YOUR ACTUAL RACIST religious evangelical/protestant forefathers. But black men, even Africans had full membership and fellowshipped together, had callings, were leaders, on and on, no different from any other male in the Church save the Priesthood.
You again are the liar.
3) Polygamy/Polyandry is God's will if one believes Joseph Smith's truth claims. At what point did God change his mind?
We don't have to believe Joseph Smith, we just have to believe the Bible, which you must not, since you condemn it. When did God "change his mind" then???
Again, you the liar....
4) The Book of Mormon is supposed to be a historical account. Why isn't there one single piece of evidence (tangible) on the planet to support it?
Another lie... There is plenty....
All of 1st Nephi has been fully verified. Read the book "Lehi in the Wilderness - 81 Evidences that the Book of Mormon is true history...." Get the video that goes with it also.
http://www.nephiproject.comThis is the first work, and as it should starting at the beginning which fully verifies all beginning Book of Mormon claims.
And don't change the subject "what about the New World"???
Deal with the actual facts for a change, instead of changing the goal post.
Deal with that evidence, which is not actually 81, but in fact about a 1,000 evidences. 81 actually refers to the 81 statements in the Book of Mormon that has been verified as being true.
But, as to the New World, there is a lot of good stuff. Go to an LDS bookstore and start learning something. We are professional people, including our scholars and intellectuals. We are not "quacks". Deal with the actual facts for a change, instead of anti-mormon propaganda which uses a little truth to lie.
Most of us are Mormons BECAUSE OF THE EVIDENCES for the work. And it's entirely why we aren't in "your" religions. Because they are clearly man-made, having no evidence whatsoever for their claims and authority but "personal interpretation".
Again, you lie....
5) What happened to the so-called Urim and Thummim Joseph Smith used to translate the Book of Mormon?
I don't recall the full history, but tradition claims it's in the top spire of the Salt Lake Temple. But, I think I remember hearing it was moved? Who knows, so what? We don't believe in worshiping graven images, so why should we display something so sacred?
Since you seem to believe your interpretation of these facts is more correct than those who use logic in concluding the merit of Joseph Smith's truth claims, I'd like to know how you interpret them.
Don't have to "interpret" them.... We simply know MORE than YOU. Because after all, if you were really telling the truth, and since truth is central to our Faith, it would be easy to see that you are so wise. But, for those of us who know better, we know you spout nothing but half truths and claim them as truth.
