Why is There Anything at All?
Why is There Anything at All?
Is it because some being willed the actuality of existence itself, or because non-existence, in any ultimate, fundamental sense, is logically and ontologically impossible?
In other words, if the only possible state is the state of existence (of matter, energy, being, consciousness, mind, spirit etc.), then the only question remaining is that of what exists, at what level of development, and at what level of phenomenal manifestation.
In other words, if the only possible state is the state of existence (of matter, energy, being, consciousness, mind, spirit etc.), then the only question remaining is that of what exists, at what level of development, and at what level of phenomenal manifestation.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell
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Re: Why is There Anything at All?
I prefer the question;
How is there anything at all?
For me, 'Why' seems to beg the question of a creator?
How is there anything at all?
For me, 'Why' seems to beg the question of a creator?
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Re: Why is There Anything at All?
Droopy wrote:Is it because some being willed the actuality of existence itself, or because non-existence, in any ultimate, fundamental sense, is logically and ontologically impossible?
In other words, if the only possible state is the state of existence (of matter, energy, being, consciousness, mind, spirit etc.), then the only question remaining is that of what exists, at what level of development, and at what level of phenomenal manifestation.
Beginning that old canard, again, down the path of an infinite regression.
Re: Why is There Anything at All?
Hey Droopy!
For me, it's not simply why (or how) is there "anything at all", but it is why (or how) is there everything!
Peace,
Ceeboo
For me, it's not simply why (or how) is there "anything at all", but it is why (or how) is there everything!
Peace,
Ceeboo
Re: Why is There Anything at All?
I think a better question is how there be a God at all?
The answer to that one is at least as important as how there's anything else. Indeed, I find it far easier to understand how a lump of rock in space can exist, than a mammal god living on Kolob who is infinitely powerful, knowledgeable, and has infinite Celestial sex with a harem of wives.
The answer to that one is at least as important as how there's anything else. Indeed, I find it far easier to understand how a lump of rock in space can exist, than a mammal god living on Kolob who is infinitely powerful, knowledgeable, and has infinite Celestial sex with a harem of wives.
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
Re: Why is There Anything at All?
Droopy wrote:Is it because some being willed the actuality of existence itself.
I hope you can see that this is not a possibility since the willing being is one of the things that doesn't exist. Remember, the question is why is there anything at all?
Said differently, gods themselves fall under the categrory "anything at all".
Think how silly and self contradictory this is:
Once there was nothing. Not time nor space nor matter nor spirit nor thought nor gods nor devils. But then one day a god willed all these to exist. (huh?)
when believers want to give their claims more weight, they dress these claims up in scientific terms. When believers want to belittle atheism or secular humanism, they call it a "religion". -Beastie
yesterday's Mormon doctrine is today's Mormon folklore.-Buffalo
yesterday's Mormon doctrine is today's Mormon folklore.-Buffalo
Re: Why is There Anything at All?
Droopy,
How would knowing the "why" impact on your life?
How would knowing the "why" impact on your life?
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
Re: Why is There Anything at All?
I guess Droopy didn't have any deep thoughts after all.
I would have like to hear him unpack this phrase: "level of phenomenal manifestation".
Specifically the "level" part.
I would have like to hear him unpack this phrase: "level of phenomenal manifestation".
Specifically the "level" part.
when believers want to give their claims more weight, they dress these claims up in scientific terms. When believers want to belittle atheism or secular humanism, they call it a "religion". -Beastie
yesterday's Mormon doctrine is today's Mormon folklore.-Buffalo
yesterday's Mormon doctrine is today's Mormon folklore.-Buffalo
Re: Why is There Anything at All?
Fence Sitter wrote:I prefer the question;
How is there anything at all?
For me, 'Why' seems to beg the question of a creator?
Philosophically, it would only do so if the idea of a creator is already assumed to be a part of the class "everything."
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell
Re: Why is There Anything at All?
sock puppet wrote:Beginning that old canard, again, down the path of an infinite regression.
There's one interlocutor (and usual suspect) effectively out of the discussion.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell