This may be old news to some...but new to me...is this true??? Does anyone have any definitive FACTS regarding this claim?
Salt Lake Tribune
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Distorted History
Thursday, April 5, 2001
It's one thing to distort history, quite another to invent it. Kathy Erickson (Forum, March 11) claims that the federal government threatened The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with its tax-exempt status in 1978 because of the church's position regarding blacks and the priesthood.
We state categorically that the federal government made no such threat in 1978 or at any other time. The decision to extend the blessings of the priesthood to all worthy males had nothing to do with federal tax policy or any other secular law. In the absence of proof, we conclude that Ms. Erickson is seriously mistaken.
BRUCE L. OLSEN
Public Affairs Department
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
After the above was published in the Tribune, numerous comments were made on internet discussion boards. Here are a few samples:
If you ever run across a book, The Tenth Jusitice: The Soclicitor General and the Rule of Law by Lincoln Caplan, 1987, check it out. (Don't confuse it with the recent legal thriller by Brad Meltzer with a similar name).
Caplan discusses with Rex Lee why he recused himself as Solicitor General (the guy who argues for the US gov. before the Sup. Ct.) in the Bob Jones v IRS case. In that matter the Supreme Court decided that a racially discrimintory religious university could not claim federal tax exempt status. Lee said that he had recused because he had previously argued before the IRS for the right of the LDS church to practice racial discrimination and still be tax exempt. Lee felt it would be unethical for him to now argue the the other side for the government.
If the IRS had never threatened the LDS church's tax exempt status, why was Lee arguing over it and race with the IRS on the church's behalf?
Someone else writes:
I loved that [first] line! They obviously speak from experience, being masters at both distorting and inventing history.
Someone else writes:
The only thing he stated is that the Church never was "threatened" by the Government, NOT that the Church wasn't worried that such a thing *could* happen and was watching court rulings [like the one that was occurring in Wisconsin] to see if they could continue discriminating against [black] members.
Yes, it is possible to lose tax-exempt status for discrimination--Bob Jones University lost it once for its interracial dating policy.
Being the curious sort that I am, I got a hold of The Tenth Jusitice: The Soclicitor General and the Rule of Law to verify what the one poster had stated. Here are some of the relevant quotes. Those interested will want to read all of Chapter V, "The Bob Jones Case".
Rex Lee [who later became the BYU President], who had been sworn in as Solicitor General seven months before [the Bob Jones brief was filed in 1982], had once represented the Mormon church when it faced a problem like Bob Jones's and, to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest, he had taken himself off the case. (p. 50 -- footnoted reference is to an interview the author had with Lee)
In 1970, the Internal Revenue Service ruled that Bob Jones no longer qualified for tax-exempt status because of [its] segregationist policy, so the school changed it. Blacks could be accepted if they were married to other blacks, or if they promised not to date or marry outside their race... By the time of the Supreme Court case, a decade later, the number of blacks attending the school was less than a dozen, making the ratio of whites to blacks about 550 to one.
From the vantage point of the Solicitor General's office, the legal issue in the Bob Jones case was routine. It was a tax question. (p. 53)
In conclusion, there was probably more than one reason why blacks were finally allowed to have the Mormon Priesthood. One of them was likely the possibility of a change in the church's tax-exempt status.
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Re: Priesthood Ban Lifted Due to Fear of Loss of Tax Status?
Did you know how SWK reached the conclusion that God wanted him to reverse the Priesthood Ban?
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Bazooka wrote:Did you know how SWK reached the conclusion that God wanted him to reverse the Priesthood Ban?
I remember reading someplace that Legrand Richards had stated that it was sort of a reverse revelation. He stated that they prayed and told God they were going to lift the band and if was not OK with that then he should say so or something to that effect.
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Re: Priesthood Ban Lifted Due to Fear of Loss of Tax Status?
son of Ishmael wrote:Bazooka wrote:Did you know how SWK reached the conclusion that God wanted him to reverse the Priesthood Ban?
I remember reading someplace that Legrand Richards had stated that it was sort of a reverse revelation. He stated that they prayed and told God they were going to lift the band and if was not OK with that then he should say so or something to that effect.
SWK sent his Apostles off to research the matter and to find scriptural evidence to support why the Priesthood Ban should stay in place.
When none of them could, he prayed and told Heavenly Father that he had decided to end the Priesthood Ban and that if He (HF) didn't want that to happen He should show SWK a sign. No sign, priesthood ban reversed.
Interestingly, David O'McKay received a similar divine non-response about the same subject....
By the late 1940s and 1950s, racial integration was becoming more common in American life. Church President David O. McKay emphasized that the restriction extended only to men of black African descent. The Church had always allowed Pacific Islanders to hold the priesthood, and President McKay clarified that black Fijians and Australian Aborigines could also be ordained to the priesthood and instituted missionary work among them. In South Africa, President McKay reversed a prior policy that required prospective priesthood holders to trace their lineage out of Africa.14
Nevertheless, given the long history of withholding the priesthood from men of black African descent, Church leaders believed that a revelation from God was needed to alter the policy, and they made ongoing efforts to understand what should be done. After praying for guidance, President McKay did not feel impressed to lift the ban.15
https://www.lds.org/topics/race-and-the-priesthood
David O'McKay interpreted God's silence on the subject as meaning the Ban should continue.
SWK interpreted the same silence as meaning the Ban should be lifted.
I have subsequently used the technique demonstrated by the Prophet when approaching God in supplication and in wanting guidance.
"Dear Heavenly Father, I've decided it's wrong for me to give the Church tithing....so I'm stopping paying. If you want me to keep paying, let me know......
*divine crickets*
.....Great! Amen"
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Re: Priesthood Ban Lifted Due to Fear of Loss of Tax Status?
The mental image of SWK asking God to send him a sign reminded me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkcKQmr7kRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkcKQmr7kRc
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Re: Priesthood Ban Lifted Due to Fear of Loss of Tax Status?
son of Ishmael wrote:Bazooka wrote:Did you know how SWK reached the conclusion that God wanted him to reverse the Priesthood Ban?
I remember reading someplace that Legrand Richards had stated that it was sort of a reverse revelation. He stated that they prayed and told God they were going to lift the band and if was not OK with that then he should say so or something to that effect.
More and more Mormons are using this method for paying their monthly membership dues. They throw their offerings into the air and whatever Mormon Man god and his son Mormon Bastard jesus want they take for the Mormon Corporation and whatever hits the ground the member keeps.