Holland threatens to hunt down inactive RM's....

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Then he gave probably one of the most aggressive, loving, sincere, and spiritual instructions I have ever heard given. He didn’t stand at the pulpit, but he walked around the chapel, yelling, making jokes, and staring us down in the eye, all in the most Christlike way possible. It was amazing, and the Spirit was so strong in that room. He just told us that he “gets so fired up about these things” because of his love for missionary work and the change it has made in his life. From the way he described it, he came out on his mission in the same mindset that I and most missionaries do, scared and unprepared. But it has forever changed his life.
I’d just like to share some insights from that meeting.
He said (and in all of these I am paraphrasing and trying to quote at my best) “Can you imagine an organization or a government that puts their future in the hands of 18-25 year old young men and women?….We expect you to save the church!”
He said “You are engaged in the Salvation of a Human Soul. It is the most important thing you will ever do.” And he made it clear that this is the most important thing we will ever do in our life.
He also warned us, “Don’t you dare leave this gospel after your mission!! If you do, I’ll hunt ya, I’ll find ya!” haha it was quite funny the way he said it.

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Lol
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We expect you to save the church!

If this is a direct quote... yikes.
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I have a question wrote:
Then he gave probably one of the most aggressive, loving, sincere, and spiritual instructions I have ever heard given. He didn’t stand at the pulpit, but he walked around the chapel, yelling, making jokes, and staring us down in the eye, all in the most Christlike way possible. It was amazing, and the Spirit was so strong in that room. He just told us that he “gets so fired up about these things” because of his love for missionary work and the change it has made in his life. From the way he described it, he came out on his mission in the same mindset that I and most missionaries do, scared and unprepared. But it has forever changed his life.
I’d just like to share some insights from that meeting.
He said (and in all of these I am paraphrasing and trying to quote at my best) “Can you imagine an organization or a government that puts their future in the hands of 18-25 year old young men and women?….We expect you to save the church!”
He said “You are engaged in the Salvation of a Human Soul. It is the most important thing you will ever do.” And he made it clear that this is the most important thing we will ever do in our life.
He also warned us, “Don’t you dare leave this gospel after your mission!! If you do, I’ll hunt ya, I’ll find ya!” haha it was quite funny the way he said it.

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First question I'll ask him is "I've been damned little girls and other Men's wives, just like Horny Holy Joe, when will you be calling me to the First Quorum of Seventies?"
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An organization that puts it future in the hands of 18-25 year olds.....?


Hmm mm


Every military in the world?
Pest control Salesforce?
Home alarm Salesforce?

How many more to make the full set... when they start putting the youngsters in charge, and not middle aged successful folk, his analogy might mean something. Til then, they are like every other military and door to door sales Co on the planet.

Holland is a dodo.
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He spoke to my mission in 1994, and it was just as memorable. In smaller settings like that, he can be a very engaging speaker. It's interesting that he acknowledged the possibility of some of them leaving the Church after their missions.
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SteelHead wrote:An organization that puts it future in the hands of 18-25 year olds.....?


Hmm mm


Every military in the world?
Pest control Salesforce?
Home alarm Salesforce?

How many more to make the full set... when they start putting the youngsters in charge, and not middle aged successful folk, his analogy might mean something. Til then, they are like every other military and door to door sales Co on the planet.

Holland is a dodo.

Hollowland is not a dodo...he's read a few books.
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That is a fairly standard missionary conference pitch. It was the same 25 years ago when nelson, didier, choules and a few other white guys made the pitch to my mission.

The pitch to mission presidents is not very different.

And the pitch from every apostle visiting the mtc is about the same.
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I have a question wrote:
He also warned us, “Don’t you dare leave this gospel after your mission!! If you do, I’ll hunt ya, I’ll find ya!” haha it was quite funny the way he said it.


Does he really have that much time on his hands? I mean, there are quite a few of us.
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cinepro wrote:He spoke to my mission in 1994, and it was just as memorable. In smaller settings like that, he can be a very engaging speaker. It's interesting that he acknowledged the possibility of some of them leaving the Church after their missions.

Right. I thought also the "We expect you to save the church" line...if that's a direct quote.. was interesting. I've never seen any admission that the Church does now or will need saving.
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