Not one apostle attends Africa temple ground breaking

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Not one apostle attends Africa temple ground breaking

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=39380446&nid=1284&title=lds-church-breaks-ground-on-durban-south-africa-temple

At the groundbreaking for South Africa’s second temple, Elder Carl B. Cook of the Seventy and president of the Church’s Africa Southeast Area presided


I don't know how normal that is, but I did find it odd that it wasn't presided by an apostle.
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They should have opened a mall or a bank. :lol:
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It's probably the members in south africa who are to blame for this one. The members are always at fault for being raped at BYU and for not having at least an apostle to preside at their ground-breaking down there.
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Behold, I the Lord command my servants to hold their peace and not enter into dark Africa wherein the curse of Cain still resides until I come in my glory. Therefore, I the Lord, command my servants to send a representative to speak flattering words to my dark saints and promise them that the Lord in his goodness will raise them up at the last day wherein they no longer will be slaves but will enter into my rest in a state of glory to reside with my choice servants.

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The Apostles were not guaranteed that both active members in that temple district would show up, so why send a bigwig?
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To be fair, it could also be the fact that the apostles are all getting up there in age, and it just isn't as easy for them to travel like that anymore. That is a pretty rough trip for a Senior Citizen. Hell, I wouldn't want to do it, and I'm 52!
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Enzo the Baker wrote:The Apostles were not guaranteed that both active members in that temple district would show up, so why send a bigwig?


The Africans are the people who were non-valiant in the mythical pre-existent . So why even build them a temple :lol:

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Jesse Pinkman wrote:To be fair, it could also be the fact that the apostles are all getting up there in age, and it just isn't as easy for them to travel like that anymore. That is a pretty rough trip for a Senior Citizen. Hell, I wouldn't want to do it, and I'm 52!

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Likely a tiny mini Mc'Temple.


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You have to say that this is a bit of a snub for South Africa.
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