Dunnisms from Midgley

[_Lemmie]

Midgley's dialect seems to include an irregular verb:
I made an innocent mistake;
You expressed yourself poorly;
They lied.

well done.

[_Gadianton]

That’s quite a telling statement from the master dissembler.

That thread is really interesting. It appears that the tactics have changed. Gemli is being patronized by the apologists in a developing battle strategy, and of course, the brilliant Dr. Detroit, who I believe holds two Phds and is running for the Senate, is calling out the obvious -- with a little more subtlety than Gemli's patronizers, of course.

Gemli is his own man, you can't say otherwise. He seems impervious not only to what the religionists of SeN think but to his supporters as well. He may be the most a-political poster I've ever seen. So it shall be interesting, if these tactics to win Gemli over as a dissident voice against the recent influx of real Phds on SeN, fail to work, will the sugar turn to spit?

I can't say whether this is what we're seeing here or not, I'm not leveling any accusations, but I will say that in abusive relationships (employer/employee, spouse, friends, working associates), the abuser is charming and protective, complimentary, and bonds to her or his target in a very real way that is not at all cold and premeditated. Those drawn in may or may not be won over, but perhaps polite and reciprocating as a mater of courtesy, and then time tells if the target refuses to be molded, or decides to go in a different direction as far as association goes.

[_Gadianton]

Breaking News: Gemli is now getting up-votes from the apologists.

I'm grabbing popcorn. This is going to be one of those "episode 5" plot-twists I think.

[_Lemmie]

Wait a sec, something is not making sense.

Ben:

I very much appreciate your calling my attention to the very obvious mistake I made when I wrote the following: "Immediately after it appeared in print," which as you correctly pointed out was a silly, careless mistake on my part--that is, not possible.

I submitted that essay to the Era many months before President McKay passed away. And there was much back and forth over the contents of my essay. Since what I had written was back then seen as both novel and sensitive, Jay Todd, then the editor, had to have it approved by those who both could and then did approve it.
When it was approved, I then received a call from Jay in which he indicated exactly what I said about President McKay's remarks. I asked Jay, if I should make additional changes because of what President McKay had said. I was a bit annoyed because I could see the approval process dragging on and on. Jay then explained that it had been approved as it was. This was a relief, since the editorial back and forth had raised the distint possibility that what I had written and then revised several time would never appear in print. I could have lived with that.

So midgley says that even though the editor in chief and then- president of the lds church objected to the language, it was approved and would be printed. But that wasn’t done until SEVEN MONTHS after the editor in chief and then-president of the lds church passed away, and likely more than several years after McKay was cogent enough to make such phone calls. Recall he was so ill in the 60s that the last time he spoke in General Conference was 1966.

Midgley then immediately follows up that explanation with this sentence:

Midgley:

One must keep in mind that John Sorenson's two part essay setting out a limited geography for the Book of Mormon had to wait for the death of an Apostle before it appeared in the Era.

Is midgley suggesting what I think he’s suggesting? The alternative explanation requires that a lowly editor and other “approvers” override the President of the LDS church to approve words that McKay didn’t want used.

I think Midgley has a made up story here, and he is digging himself into a quite untenable hole with his attempts to scramble and dissemble in a story he can’t justify.

All to support the “I don’t know that we ever taught that” version of using the Mormon name. Sad.

[Guest]

It's clear The Midge is still lying about this whole narrative. Lemmie is right, it's highly unlikely McKay would've been involved in the Church's daily operations, such as phone calls over an article written by The Midge, due to his advanced illness. So. Once again, we see that a Mopologist can never, ever, EVER admit to wrongdoing and instead will just double down on their lying.

Speaking of lying and falsehoods and Dunnisms...

Mr. Peterson continues to double down on the mysterious MDB poster who's been sending him nastygrams:

DanielPeterson Mod -> Kiwi57 • an hour ago • edited

I'm sorry for in any way encouraging you, if I did, to go and post over there.

My advice? Don't do it again. That way lies madness.

Nothing can come of a believer's posting there but ridicule and frustration.

I left the hate site many years ago, on the advice of several people, including at least two of the less hostile posters there, that, once I was gone, the more obsessive haters would tire of defaming me. However, as I expected, they didn't. They haven't. They've never even paused.

One of them, in fact, has continued to reach out to me with hundreds of anonymous and often obscene emails over the past seven years -- commencing, I think, at roughly the time that I left the hate site. ( I've already received one of his communications this morning.)

Trying to correct or reason with them is futile. In my case, certainly, they've already developed their malevolent conclusions. The only things that change are the particular excuses for slandering me on any given day and the specific angles of attack.

We were recently treated to some content created by this mysterious MDB poster, shared by Mr. Peterson himself that was along the lines of, "You nerferding meany dan i gonna get yew real gud." You'll note much like the 2nd Watson Letter and The Schryver Essays, this apocrypha is simply concocted as a convenient tool to use at their discretion. No one actually believes Mr. Peterson has hundreds of emails from a mysterious MDB poster.

- Doc

[_moksha]

Isn’t it wonderful and marvelous that the veil was so thin that President McKay could communicate with Jay Todd from the Spirit World?

My testimony is strengthened by Brother Midgley’s sacred experience of receiving divine guidance from beyond the veil.

Makes you wonder whether President McKay viewed the future day when Mormon would be revealed as a "devil word" to be avoided and was passing on that knowledge to his favorite servant Brother Midgley.

[_Philo Sofee]

Moksha
Makes you wonder whether President McKay viewed the future day when Mormon would be revealed as a "devil word" to be avoided and was passing on that knowledge to his favorite servant Brother Midgley.

After all the Brethren need the scholars, because all they have is the Holy Ghost to help them. The scholars have Ph.d's!

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Apparently, the Paul H. Dunn-Kruger effect isn’t limited to The Midge and Mr. Peterson. Here’s Stephen “Woke as “F”” Smoot ripping off A Pilgrim’s Progress (helpfully linked from Mr. Peterson himself, of course)

https://www.plonialmonimormon.com/2019/ ... gress.html

An excerpt:

“Life was perfect for the “forever family” of Sue, Jim, and baby Dallin, and it was all thanks to the Church and the gospel.

Then one day, while she was innocently scrolling through Facebook, Sue saw a friend of hers comment about something called the “CES Letter” and how he was leaving the Church because of it. Sue was disheartened, perplexed, and saddened. In the back of her mind she had a nagging desire to read this “CES Letter,” if only to prove how stupid it was, but she remembered being told never to read “anti-Mormon” literature. Anti-Mormons, and those who left the Church, were nothing but bitter, selfish, and deceived individuals who, sadly, had allowed Satan to cloud their minds. They had all lost the Spirit, and were nothing but proud, vain, and stiffnecked. (And a good number of them, like the ones who picket at Temple Square during General Conference, were just in it for the money.)”

- Doc

[_Lemmie]

.So Smoot trashes people, but in the comments, in what I assume is an attempt to slur someone else, outs himself as the go-to source for his collection of bestiality and anime/manga porn.

Lance
August 21, 2019 at 10:04 pm | Reply
Lol, I don’t care that you posted that drivel, just that it does you no good, Mr Bukkake. [wink]

Stephen Smoot
August 21, 2019 at 10:10 pm | Reply
See, it sounds to me like you do care. You’re obviously emotionally invested in your newfound identity enough that you took the time to come here and leave a long comment.

In any event, give my regards to Bill Reel. Let him know that if he is ever interesting in expanding his collection of Tapir Hentai, he knows who to talk to.

I had to look up the word, hentai:

Outside of Japan, hentai (変態 or へんたい; About this soundlisten (help·information) English: /ˈhɛntaɪ/; lit. "pervert") is anime and manga pornography.

Or maybe he just thinks it’s super edgy to be in the know about such topics. Like an immature 12 year old with very bad older influences. I don’t understand Smoot. He is a disgusting person. He does more harm for his religion than any of the people he trashes.

By the way, how does CruiseLady feel about this part of his essay?

When they had saved up enough money, they eagerly planned on going on one of Dehlin’s much-hyped cruises;

Like the way those cruises to ‘Book of Mormon Lands’ are “much-hyped”?

[_Dr. Shades]

In the back of her mind she had a nagging desire to read this “CES Letter,” if only to prove how stupid it was, but she remembered being told never to read “anti-Mormon” literature.

Wait, WHAT?? The Mopologists have insisted for years that nobody in the church tells anyone else in the church not to read anti-Mormon literature!!