Master Timeline of Mopologetics

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Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics

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I just want to bump this to draw people's attention to an interesting addition to the timeline:

8 November FARMS is incorporated. Its founder is John W. Welch. He is joined by Lew Cramer (now head of Coldwell Bankers' Salt Lake City commercial real estate office) and Clark Waddoups (now Senior United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the District of Utah), the first board members. As Welch would later reminisce, "It was exactly a quarter of a century ago that three lawyers (Lew Cramer, Clark Waddoups, and I) were driving up Sixth Street in Los Angeles to get on the Harbor Freeway on our way home. I was practicing tax law at the time, and in retrospect I think it no accident that I had developed some expertise in organizing and advising tax exempt organizations. I was about to file the articles for a new foundation that could make Book of Mormon research available to people all over the world and that could facilitate the good work of promising Latter-day Saint scholars. Well, all we needed was a name. As we pulled onto the freeway, the name "FARMS" was hatched. It got a good laugh at first, but none of us could forget it, nor has the general public." See Insights, vol. 24, no. 3 (2004) p. 4.

This is an expansion of the original entry. The new information comes from a speech Welch delivered to the FARMS Development Council dinner in 2004.
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Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics

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Kishkumen wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 2:55 pm
For example, John Welch first published about chiasmus in BYU Studies in 1969. That is definitely an important part of the story of FARMS. Last year the 50th anniversary of chiasmus was celebrated. I kid you not. If that doesn't point to the importance of Welch's work on chiasmus to 20th and 21st century LDS apologetics, I don't know what does.
Damn. Fifty years. I had no idea.
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Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics

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Stem wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 6:06 pm
2005
2006
2005 ended with the release of Rough Stone Rolling, and merry Smithmas. Such a big Mormon year, it felt, but little notice in the world of mopologetics.

Oh also in 2005 was the The Worlds of Joseph Smith conference:
https://byustudies.byu.edu/content/worlds-joseph-smith
Thank you, Stem! I appreciate these valuable contributions.
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Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics

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Holy Ghost wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 10:09 pm
If someone has a link to the photos, I'd like to take a look.
If I'm not mistaken, I think these 24 photos are what set him off:

https://time.com/3783335/happy-valley-a ... pbringing/
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Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics

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Analytics wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 8:19 pm
Holy Ghost wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 10:09 pm
If someone has a link to the photos, I'd like to take a look.
If I'm not mistaken, I think these 24 photos are what set him off:

https://time.com/3783335/happy-valley-a ... pbringing/
That makes much more sense than apologists being rattled by photos from the 1950s.
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By way of update, I announce that I have added a lot to the timeline. One of the most interesting threads in this is the relationship between Margaret Barker and the LDS scholarly community. One of the best sources for this history is Kevin Christensen's interview on the blog By Common Consent. See https://bycommonconsent.com/2008/09/26/ ... et-barker/

According to Christensen, Mormon writers started citing Barker's 1992 book as early as 1994. By 1999 a member of the LDS Church had contacted her to bring LDS scholarship to her attention. In 2003 she visited BYU. Her 2004 book included an interview with John W. Welch. On the whole, Barker will do a lot with the LDS scholarly community. It is a fascinating story in its own right.
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Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics

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Analytics wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 8:19 pm
Holy Ghost wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 10:09 pm
If someone has a link to the photos, I'd like to take a look.
If I'm not mistaken, I think these 24 photos are what set him off:

https://time.com/3783335/happy-valley-a ... pbringing/
Thank you for the link to the pictures. Now, however, I am perplexed at why Mormon apologists would be triggered by those photos. Quite representative of life as I experienced and observed in Happy Valley.
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Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics

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Is the interaction between the ex-FARMS group and the Heartlanders (Rod Meldrum) included in the timeline?
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Holy Ghost wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 7:49 pm
Is the interaction between the ex-FARMS group and the Heartlanders (Rod Meldrum) included in the timeline?
That's on the list, but it is not on the timeline yet. Thank you for reminding me to work on that.
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Analytics wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 8:19 pm
If I'm not mistaken, I think these 24 photos are what set him off:

https://time.com/3783335/happy-valley-a ... pbringing/
EVERYONE: Be sure to click on the box superimposed over the lower-left corner of that first photograph in order to see the rest.

To this day, I still can't figure out why the brother-in-law has barbecue sauce slathered all over his lower legs in photo #17.
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