Did Allen Wyatt Get 'Demoted' at Interpreter?
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What has struck me throughout my awareness from afar of the Mormon apologists associated first with FARMS and then with Interpreter, is the hero worship of figures like Hugh Nibley (especially in the further past) and Daniel Peterson (especially in the near past and present).
See how essential was Bryce Haymond's role in bringing Interpreter to fruition, and just how much hero worship figured into that:
http://www.templestudy.com/2012/08/03/f ... scripture/
And see how William Hamblin did a lion's share of the work at one point, until he got fed up:
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/enigmatic ... terpreter/
It would appear that Daniel Peterson has secured (by dint of intellectual acumen? professional expertise? magnetic personality?) pride of place among the FARMS/Interpreter apologists. (I think there's a reason he's always the ultimate, final speaker at the FAIR conference, no?)
This thread is about Allen Wyatt. I have no idea about him, except there seems to be a pattern of certain people labouring mightily and perhaps thanklessly, while others are in the limelight.
See how essential was Bryce Haymond's role in bringing Interpreter to fruition, and just how much hero worship figured into that:
http://www.templestudy.com/2012/08/03/f ... scripture/
And see how William Hamblin did a lion's share of the work at one point, until he got fed up:
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/enigmatic ... terpreter/
It would appear that Daniel Peterson has secured (by dint of intellectual acumen? professional expertise? magnetic personality?) pride of place among the FARMS/Interpreter apologists. (I think there's a reason he's always the ultimate, final speaker at the FAIR conference, no?)
This thread is about Allen Wyatt. I have no idea about him, except there seems to be a pattern of certain people labouring mightily and perhaps thanklessly, while others are in the limelight.
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Re: Did Allen Wyatt Get 'Demoted' at Interpreter?
He and his spouse “stepped away from the Church.” In part he was shocked to find that the current president and prophet does not accept human evolution.
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This was very fascinating. Thank you Dr. Scratch.
Alan Wyatt kind of reminds me of the awkward loner from high school that is willing to takes lots of “good natured” abuse just to fit in.
Part of me feels sorry for Alan. The Mopologists will never completely accept him or consider him an equal no matter how much he wants to belong, unless he gets that PhD.
Alan Wyatt kind of reminds me of the awkward loner from high school that is willing to takes lots of “good natured” abuse just to fit in.
Part of me feels sorry for Alan. The Mopologists will never completely accept him or consider him an equal no matter how much he wants to belong, unless he gets that PhD.
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He will be their eternal servant, imagining that is the height of existence........ so glad I no longer live under that paradigm.......Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:07 amThis was very fascinating. Thank you Dr. Scratch.
Alan Wyatt kind of reminds me of the awkward loner from high school that is willing to takes lots of “good natured” abuse just to fit in.
Part of me feels sorry for Alan. The Mopologists will never completely accept him or consider him an equal no matter how much he wants to belong, unless he gets that Ph.D..
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Re: Did Allen Wyatt Get 'Demoted' at Interpreter?
Yes: he's surfaced from time to time on "SeN" in order to post what I suppose I would characterize as "challenging" posts. And, it appears the he posted a critical comment in response to Gee's latest (silly) essay. Did J. Lindsay really give the go-ahead for that one?
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Dup.
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Re: Did Allen Wyatt Get 'Demoted' at Interpreter?
It certainly seems that way, doesn't it? There is quite a long history of "Interpreter" making changes in response to things that get said here, or by folks who are from here, going clear back to the first blog posts, where Tom pointed out the many typos.
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An absolutely devastating observation Paloma. yeah, Hamblin definitely got to sacrifice for the glorification of his commander in chief.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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Bryce Hammond stepped away from the church?! Is there any more story to this? His experience, dedication for learning through Nibley/FARMS, his emotions and excitement parallel what mine were exactly. I related to his story precisely. To now hear he has stepped away is equally as fascinating. I would like to have a more secure foundation of knowing about it however. Thanks Kish!
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Here is his blog post on evolution:Philo Sofee wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:18 pmBryce Hammond stepped away from the church?! Is there any more story to this? His experience, dedication for learning through Nibley/FARMS, his emotions and excitement parallel what mine were exactly. I related to his story precisely. To now hear he has stepped away is equally as fascinating. I would like to have a more secure foundation of knowing about it however. Thanks Kish!
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