Churning out hit pieces, just to dispel the stereotype that Mormons are nice people, must take its toll.I have a question wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:53 pmPerhaps the bone of contention here is that Allen is fed up churning out poor quality articles week after week just to keep the numbers record up.
Did Allen Wyatt Get 'Demoted' at Interpreter?
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You may be right. Did you see this post? Especially this passage?:
This is him attempting to defend himself against my criticisms that he's been irresponsible by taking a vacation during the pandemic. It is a pretty weak answer. The better answer would be one in which he justifies why his vacation was "necessary." (I already know the answer, by the way.)SeN wrote:We drive along in our private vehicle. The places where we’re staying have undertaken extraordinary new sanitation measures. We don’t eat in restaurants; we get take-out or drive-through or, more commonly, we prepare our own food to eat at home or out at a picnic spot. Much is closed down, or heavily regulated. We wear masks when in public. We wash and sanitize our hands several times a day. I look back now and wonder why it had never previously occurred to me to sanitize my hands after pumping gas. For all I knew, the preceding customer was carrying the flu or the black plague. That’s a habit that I intend to continue even after the departure of COVID-19 (assuming that it will someday depart).
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I'd like to see him try to justify his trip as being "necessary." It obviously seems at odds with his continual demands to take Covid-19 seriously. But, hey, we get to hear his commentary on how Colorado is doing better than Utah. What would his acolytes do without their coach?Doctor Scratch wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:37 amYou may be right. Did you see this post? Especially this passage?:
This is him attempting to defend himself against my criticisms that he's been irresponsible by taking a vacation during the pandemic. It is a pretty weak answer. The better answer would be one in which he justifies why his vacation was "necessary." (I already know the answer, by the way.)SeN wrote:We drive along in our private vehicle. The places where we’re staying have undertaken extraordinary new sanitation measures. We don’t eat in restaurants; we get take-out or drive-through or, more commonly, we prepare our own food to eat at home or out at a picnic spot. Much is closed down, or heavily regulated. We wear masks when in public. We wash and sanitize our hands several times a day. I look back now and wonder why it had never previously occurred to me to sanitize my hands after pumping gas. For all I knew, the preceding customer was carrying the flu or the black plague. That’s a habit that I intend to continue even after the departure of COVID-19 (assuming that it will someday depart).
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It's Friday, which means that, sure enough, a new blog entry has been posted at "Mormon Interpreter." It also means that, sure enough, there is no mention whatsoever--no "thank you" or nothing--of Allen Wyatt on “SeN.” I guess his free labor doesn’t even merit a “thanks.” Quite telling.
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Another announcement about another "Mormon Interpreter" blog posting, and guess what? No mention of Allen Wyatt.
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Re: Did Allen Wyatt Get 'Demoted' at Interpreter?
Well it certainly appears that Allen has been demoted or further marginalized. Under Allen’s watch, the Interpreter has been the laughing stock among LDS scholars and many members alike. There have been some major blunders.
I don’t know much about Jeff Lindsay, except that there was a thread about him a couple of years ago regarding his article published in the Interpreter. If I recall correctly, the article was about some Chinese science fiction novel and how it related to Mormon doctrine. Bizarre.
I guess that doesn’t give me much hope things will be more “scholarly” under Jeff’s stewardship.
I don’t know much about Jeff Lindsay, except that there was a thread about him a couple of years ago regarding his article published in the Interpreter. If I recall correctly, the article was about some Chinese science fiction novel and how it related to Mormon doctrine. Bizarre.
I guess that doesn’t give me much hope things will be more “scholarly” under Jeff’s stewardship.
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I don't know where a journal about a religion that believes in magic rocks can go as far as "scholarship." The Dales' piece was classic Interpreter nonsense. I guess it's hard when every one of Mormonism's claims is devoid of proof and the mothership of christianity isn't any better. I've read some of Jeff Lindsay's stuff and it is just his take on whatever the apologists have been putting out for years. Nothing new. He seems to like gaslighting like the rest of them. Perhaps Mr. Wyatt would do well to move on before DCP re-enacts the 2012 MI firing, except with DCP playing the "evil villain" this time.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:20 pmWell it certainly appears that Allen has been demoted or further marginalized. Under Allen’s watch, the Interpreter has been the laughing stock among LDS scholars and many members alike. There have been some major blunders.
I don’t know much about Jeff Lindsay, except that there was a thread about him a couple of years ago regarding his article published in the Interpreter. If I recall correctly, the article was about some Chinese science fiction novel and how it related to Mormon doctrine. Bizarre.
I guess that doesn’t give me much hope things will be more “scholarly” under Jeff’s stewardship.
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True. But I also think it's important to point out that Peterson was responsible to putting Wyatt in the role. Why would he think that somebody devoid of a PhD was the right choice for the job? What does that tell you about his judgment, and his priorities?Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:20 pmWell it certainly appears that Allen has been demoted or further marginalized. Under Allen’s watch, the Interpreter has been the laughing stock among LDS scholars and many members alike. There have been some major blunders.
Yes. We'll have to wait and see. I think these guys are basically just "padding" for DCP. I.e., that the hope is that they will get stuck with the blame for whatever crap "Interpreter" puts out.I don’t know much about Jeff Lindsay, except that there was a thread about him a couple of years ago regarding his article published in the Interpreter. If I recall correctly, the article was about some Chinese science fiction novel and how it related to Mormon doctrine. Bizarre.
I guess that doesn’t give me much hope things will be more “scholarly” under Jeff’s stewardship.
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I thought working Liu Cixin's The Three-Body Problem into an article relating to Mormonism was extremely clever. Jeff Lindsay's China experience could open up the Interpreter realm of consciousness in many ways and draw it away from flinging dead cows with a trebuchet.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:20 pmI don’t know much about Jeff Lindsay, except that there was a thread about him a couple of years ago regarding his article published in the Interpreter. If I recall correctly, the article was about some Chinese science fiction novel and how it related to Mormon doctrine. Bizarre.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:20 pmI don’t know much about Jeff Lindsay, except that there was a thread about him a couple of years ago regarding his article published in the Interpreter. If I recall correctly, the article was about some Chinese science fiction novel and how it related to Mormon doctrine. Bizarre.
I guess that doesn’t give me much hope things will be more “scholarly” under Jeff’s stewardship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Lindsay_(engineer)Some of Lindsay's claims have been criticized.[10] For example, Richard Abanes, a writer critical of Mormonism, refers to Lindsay's work as "numerous self-published articles, not scholarly, extremely biased, articles often based on misinformation".[11] Some LDS people also disagree with some of Lindsay's viewpoints.
Self published, not scholarly, extremely biased, based on misinformation...he sounds perfect for the job.