Scott Gordon Attacks Tyler Livingston Over CES Letter

[Shulem]

This doesn’t say that I will not engage without exception. If I feel like I’m not wasting my time I may choose to engage.

You just can't resist so you'll make the exception. You're addicted to this board!

Oh, I know, you'll leave for spell. But you'll be back for more.

[Shulem]

By the way, in a similar fashion to my recent response to Marcus, I could also ascribe “Charlatan” to certain folks here and I truly believe I’d be in the right in doing so. Would I actually do that?

It remains to be seen.

[MG 2.0]

This doesn’t say that I will not engage without exception. If I feel like I’m not wasting my time I may choose to engage.

You just can't resist so you'll make the exception. You're addicted to this board!

Oh, I know, you'll leave for spell. But you'll be back for more.

Now and then it’s kind of fun. But the truth is, it gets rather nasty rather fast with the comments of some posters. Not as fun.

It’s good for my brain. Writing and putting coherent (some would disagree!) thoughts together I find rather enjoyable.

And I like a healthy debate/conversation with those that might look at the world differently. Knowing that I don’t have ALL the answers.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

By the way, in a similar fashion to my recent response to Marcus, I could also ascribe “Charlatan” to certain folks here and I truly believe I’d be in the right in doing so. Would I actually do that?

It remains to be seen.

No worries. It won’t happen.

Regards,
MG

[Dr Moore]

I was sent this tidbit by an anonymous informant:

Really Tyler? There are reasons that people might want to leave the church, but I would hope that the CES letter is not one of them. There's a little problem with being factually inaccurate. If 1 of my students wrote that they would get an F for their research. It's like claiming a Dan Brown novel is actually true.

A couple of thoughts here. First, Gordon implies that there are *better* reasons for leaving the Church than the CES Letter. This is a stunning admission. What are these “reasons,” one wonders? Second: “claiming that a Dan Brown novel is actually true” is no different that claiming that the Book of Mormon is “real history.” Gordon, in any case, comes across as a weasel. Livingston, however, isn’t having any of it:

Hi Scott, this is a point we’ll have to disagree on.

Meanwhile, Stephen Smoot and DCP continue their war with their fellow Latter-day Saints: Jonathan Neville and the Heartlanders.

Doctor, I wonder if Scott, with his high academic standards and all, would also give an F grade to students who tried passing off the kind of research submitted by Team Bayes, which remains prominently featured at Interpreter. You know, the “research” which each author refused to have audited by a BYU stats professor, even for $10,000? Hypocrisy it seems is not without a sense of irony. (to riff off of your avatar’s costar’s momentous scene in The Marrix)

[Shulem]

Now and then it’s kind of fun.

Okay then, carry on to your heart's content.

I wonder which moderator changed your rank name? That was a bit tacky.

If it is being changed back to "God" ?, then you deserve a public apology from the mod staff.

[Marcus]

Okay then, carry on to your heart's content.

I wonder which moderator changed your rank name? That was a bit tacky.

If it is being changed back to "God" ?, then you deserve a public apology from the mod staff.

And Markk’s needs to be changed back also. That is just too weird of a glitch for two names to switch like that.

[Shulem]

And Markk’s needs to be changed back also. That is just too weird of a glitch for two names to switch like that.

Shades as been going through hard times lately. Maybe it was him.

[Marcus]

And Markk’s needs to be changed back also. That is just too weird of a glitch for two names to switch like that.

Shades as been going through hard times lately. Maybe it was him.

That’s what I was thinking too. Well, no harm no foul. Easy to fix.

[MG 2.0]

Shades as been going through hard times lately. Maybe it was him.

That’s what I was thinking too. Well, no harm no foul. Easy to fix.

I don’t think it was him.

Regards,
MG